In the near future, we'll have some advice here on the blogs for students who have been deferred. In the meantime, feel free to use this forum to chat.
In the near future, we'll have some advice here on the blogs for students who have been deferred. In the meantime, feel free to use this forum to chat.
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Posted by: Justin on December 15, 2007
Better than what it could have been eh.
Posted by: Rachel on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Spencerlt on December 15, 2007
but hey at least they still want to know some more about us, right?
Posted by: ase on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Anonymous on December 15, 2007
But there's still hope.
Posted by: richard on December 15, 2007
There ARE people who have been deferred but then subsequently admitted through regular decision...
Keep up the hopes, eh?
Posted by: Pooja on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Anonymous on December 15, 2007
another long wait.
Posted by: dan on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Does anyone know if I can submit additional information for my regular application, if anything substantial has happened in the few months?
Posted by: bunny on December 15, 2007
deferred
Posted by: Paul on December 15, 2007
bugger.
Posted by: christine on December 15, 2007
whatevs.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Kevin Simon on December 15, 2007
A lot of deferred people are admitted in regular action. I'm one of them. It is not a "polite rejection" - they really want to evaluate you again. I recommend writing a letter sometime in January explaining what you've been up to recently, and how much you still love MIT despite feeling betrayed (okay, don't put it like that).
And even if you don't get in regular, being deferred from MIT means you can probably get in to many other great schools. I'm sure bloggers will give you more advice on that sort of stuff later.
$.02
Posted by: Steve '11 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Oh wait I incinerated him.
Till March then.
Posted by: lindseuse on December 15, 2007
T,T
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Anand on December 15, 2007
I wish you all luck in late March!
Posted by: Louis II on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Stefania on December 15, 2007
Is there a way to fix up our applications after the fact? Anything like that would be nice, there's a few errors I spotted later on that I really wish I could fix.
At the very least I'd like to resubmit my essay. In the process of uploading my essay, part of a sentence got chopped out (causing a strange grammatical error) and I didn't catch the error until after I had submitted it.
Posted by: Johonaton on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
what percentage of students that are deferred get admitted?
Posted by: alyssa on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Trevor on December 15, 2007
even i got deferred =/
Posted by: anon on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: R(2n-1) on December 15, 2007
kind of expected.... but still hurts.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: marissa on December 15, 2007
It's disappointing, but there's still hope!
Posted by: deferred... on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
All I can do is hope for march, in the meantime I'll have to work on those other applications. How annoying.
Posted by: sean on December 15, 2007
/doesn't give up hope just yet.
Posted by: Ken on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Anonymous on December 15, 2007
nonsense
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
this is going to be painful....
Posted by: platypus01 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Heads up! We still have a chance!!
Posted by: R(2n-1) on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: JohnJimJoeBob on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Derek on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Anonymous on December 15, 2007
We do not give up!!!
Posted by: R(2n-1) on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 on December 15, 2007
but think about it this way--your def qualified for MIT if you've come this far, so don't lose hope!! In march, they'll be bangin out acceptances to us!!
Posted by: tOts on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Justin on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
I think deferred status is only given on decions.mit.edu not my.mit.edu
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
In past years, about 300 of the deferred get accepted RD.
I'm glad I was deferred and not outright rejected, whether you like it or not, it's still another chance. Although I do have to admit that it would've been cool to get the tube.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 on December 15, 2007
:( So sad.
Posted by: Travis on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
That's as easy as pi.
(sorry, couldn't resist)
Go to https://decisions.mit.edu
and type in your id and password. It should tell you your status.
Good luck.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: stephanie on December 15, 2007
No problem. Deferred is better than rejected right!
Posted by: Justin on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
http://www.mitadmissions.org/topics/apply/admissions_statistics/index.shtml
10.9 % of those deferred were accepted.
Posted by: Steve '11 on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: R(2n-1) on December 15, 2007
I agree that it would be nice to be able to tweak our applications a little before they are reconsidered, though.
Posted by: Adam on December 15, 2007
*goes back to watching Xfiles while he waits for the Caltech letters to arrive*
Posted by: bunny on December 15, 2007
I'd better get on those common app supplements...
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Posted by: bz on December 15, 2007
Go to https://decisions.mit.edu/
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Jordan on December 15, 2007
I'm a long-time blog stalker, first-time commenter,
and now...I'm one of the deferred.
Well now, I can't say that being deferred doesn't suck,
but as many of you have said,
yeah it could've been worse.
It could've been better too but heh,
let's not go there.
So here's to a weekend of finishing all of those extra applications!
Daunting yes,
and I am sure that I will be cursing myself within the next hour at most,
but as many of you have said,
we shouldn't lose hope,
and not all of life comes to an end on one Saturday morning
(I scarcely believe that myself, but despite how many of us are probably thinking now...
life does go on after an MIT deferral).
It is...a tad odd
to even think of having to finish applications to other schools
especially if MIT was the first choice but hey,
how I'm seeing it, just try to treat them as if they were MIT.
Stupid advice?
Maybe.
But hopefully some of that passion will be siphoned off into those other apps.
Who knows?
Definitely not me.
March may seem a while off, but it'll be here much sooner than we think.
Anyone else looking forward to that
wow-I'm-about-to-throw-up-all-over-my-keyboard
feeling again?
It's strange, since yesterday I had felt better than I do now,
as despite feeling sick to my stomach
I did have that false hope at least...and of course,
regretting all of the things that I could've submitted,
but didn't,
and then started kicking myself over...
Well, at least we'll have a chance to spiff up our applications?
Hopefully?
Wow, this certainly was a load of incongruous banter...
but I guess my point was
(if I even had one)
was just, as little as I'd like to admit it,
there's still a chance,
and the battle's far from over for us.
We didn't get this far, just to have it all fall apart.
Best of luck to all of the still hopeful '12's!
And my apologies for this grammatical nightmare of a comment!
Posted by: Julia L. on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Justin on December 15, 2007
What happens to a decision Deferred?
Does it dry up
to a sublimated state?
Or fester like arcsin--
And differentiate?
Does it stink like an infinite loop?
Or debug and sugar over--
into the Rejected group?
Maybe it just drags
like a complex plane ln.
Or in March, does it get in?
Posted by: Pooja on December 15, 2007
but now i have to do all those other applications...
Posted by: Anonymous on December 15, 2007
Wait, was I supposed to be accepted?
Oh...Darn...
Posted by: Adam on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Ely on December 15, 2007
that was sweet. good job
Posted by: Anon on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Marissa on December 15, 2007
Welcome to the big pond, little fish.
It hurts.
But I realize, every now and then, that it's ok. I'm not going to change; if i get rejected in march, i'm not going to turn stupid or something.
The only thing you lose is the whispers of "That's ____, he's going to MIT" behind your back in the hallway. And if that's what you dream about, than maybe MIT isn't the school for you.
I'm very sorry for my post.
Posted by: ethan on December 15, 2007
How did we ALL get deferred?
Posted by: Joe. on December 15, 2007
try
{
Mit.getInEarlyAction();
}
catch(DeferredException darn)
{
Mit.wait3Months();
}
Posted by: Adam on December 15, 2007
Upsetting, obviously. But I doubt that any of us have been the type to stop trying! Let's do everything we can, people!
Good luck to all in March!
Posted by: Trent on December 15, 2007
--Prinicipal Scudworth, Clone High.
Reasons I think you got deferred:
1. You write too much poetry! You might want to try a liberal arts college (like that place down the street).
2. You're a bunch of losers!
3. The admissions process is really conducted by dartboard
4. (not sure about this one) You are susceptible to trolling.
Posted by: William S. '11 on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: leopoettx on December 15, 2007
to hell with this, I'm going to Oxford
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
to hell with this, I'm going to Oxford =P
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
VERY nice! Hughes all the way.
Good morning, bloggers!
Ain't you heard
The modem-processing rumble
of admission deferred?
That's from another-- I couldn't resist.
Well, can't say I didn't expect it. If Steve '11's stats are right, we have about the same chance of getting accpeted in March as we did today. So have a cookie and think: "I'm brilliant. You're brilliant. We're all brilliant together!" Then scramble off to attack your March calendar pages with every color of highlighter imaginable. So ta ta, as I do just that.
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Posted by: wongster on December 15, 2007
to hell with this, I'm going to Oxford =P"
I lol'd
Posted by: angus on December 15, 2007
I do have a question for anyone who knows about the MIT applications process, though. I'm applying for an NROTC scholarship, and I have been told that I'm (in their words) "a 99.9% sure thing" to get one for MIT. While I can't include the last part, should I notify the admissions board that I'm applying (aka, does that factor in at all)? The men have told me that they'll have a letter to me by the end of February telling me that I've gotten it (or not gotten it, if it somehow works out that way), and they'd notify MIT around that time. Would that be too late to have any impact?
Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Ian on December 15, 2007
Very nice!
@ Pooja
Hughes forever, mi amigo. I smiled.
Posted by: Ian on December 15, 2007
1:6:1
500:3000:500
accepted:deferred:rejected
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Feng on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
I'll keep it to myself forever.
Words of farewell will drop,
Silently after a crystal clear dream,
Holding flakes falling from the sky in both hands,
I embrace them forever and ever.
I already knows the strength it takes,
To smile until the end.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Which gathered from everyday life, danced in the air.
Up in the sky are clouds, guides to my faraway home,
Making my forward bound faster than when I was little.
Like children waiting for the snow to melt,
Twinkling lights run and splash around
Without even noticing what they will see tomorrow,
They are sparkling in their seasons,
A day'll come when any wish will come true anywhere in the world.
For we who keep traveling,
A small angel will descend.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Alright then
As winter's breath blows through the gentle waves,
Whilst falling flakes catch on the willow bark,
Deepest memories within the land doth take,
Endless shadows inside journeyman's heart.
For from the days of expressionless joy,
Festivities come and frequently go,
With food and drink and song and dance and toy,
T'was the living dream now buried in snow.
Forward march on flatlands and stepping stones,
A timeless path yeld forth in front of me,
In blizzard or frostbite I hold my own,
To ever running where eyes cannot see.
Across the white and down below the blue,
From where I came to be home again soon.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Rich on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Weiting on December 15, 2007
Posted by: PeacenikPie on December 15, 2007
Look on the bright side, I almost thought I would get shut down first try. I came home today almost dreading a rejection letter, so when I heard I got deferred I was actually happy.
I dunno MIT is still my number 1 though.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
I've been accepted early to UChicago, which is really nice because apparently they cranked out a bunch of deferrals this year too, but it's a bit different... I mean, I have the security of going to an impressive school, but I think it would be hard to go there with these pines for MIT. My plan (as of 9am this morning) was to go to Chicago if I didn't make MIT and to MIT if I did make it. I thought they'd be polarized by my application, either wanting me or not, yet apparently that wasn't the case. Now I'm on the fence about everything; I had planned on matriculating somewhere in a few days. But I'm going to wait. And I'm actually pretty happy; a certain sense of satisfaction comes with being deferred because we are recognized, at least marginally, for our potential. And who doesn't like being recognized for potential? :D
Can you guys relate?
Posted by: J Courtois on December 15, 2007
@ Rich: I believe you. I have no doubt that you wrote it.
Posted by: Anon on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Aleksey on December 15, 2007
Enjoy your senior year. It can be amazing if you let it.
Posted by: Elizabeth '11 on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Rich on December 15, 2007
Have to go send in more apps to other colleges now... :(
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Waiting until March is....bleh...but I still have a chance to go to MIT...which is...wooooo hooo!YAY
So keep your heads up everyone! Time is gonna fly by, and before long we'll know where we're going after HS-whether that's MIT or not.
Posted by: Susan on December 15, 2007
My midyear grades haven't come out yet, and I assumed it was okay, since they're being sent as soon as they come out. Is that why I don't have a decision?
Posted by: Prianka on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Rich on December 15, 2007
Let me tell you an interesting story:
I applied early action to MIT last year. Ever since I first moved to America in the fourth grade I had wanted to go to MIT. After nine years of hard work and sending my life in a 10*14" manila envelope, I, too, was deferred. Unwavered, I continued the application process, applied to a whole bunch of other schools regular decision, and waited. I sent a one-page letter off in January to all my schools because a lot of good things happened in January which I thought they should know about. In the spring, another letter came from MIT. I was waitlisted. Everyone told me to let it go, choose a school, and have it be done. My math teacher said they didn't deserve me if they couldn't make up their minds. A friend's mother said I was too normal for MIT. But I wanted it. I wanted MIT so bad. So I stayed on the waitlist.
An e-mail came on the last day of AP exams. I had just finished AP Ovid & Catullus when I came home, checked the mail (nothing), checked my phone (nothing), and turned on the news (nothing special) when finally I opened up my Outlook e-mail to find a message from Mari McQuaid titled:
"WELCOME MIT Class of 2011"
It might have taken me six months, but it was damn well worth it.
I've been at MIT four months now and I have never felt more at home. Coursework was surprisingly easy, people INCREDIBLY friendly, faculty so supportive. I have never been happier than I am right now. I fit into MIT like a face-centered cubic crystal. After coming here, I now understand why it took me until the waitlist to get in. You would not believe how talented kids here are.
In short, then, the moral of my story is:
If you want it bad, don't give up.
Being deferred or waitlisted is just part of the process.
Be stoic about the admissions process. If you gave it your all, then there's nothing more you can do.
And remember,
it's all just business.
All the best,
Ken Haggerty
Posted by: Ken Haggerty on December 15, 2007
if you really want to be inscrutable, you could also write your message in huge ascii art, then convert it to hex text, apply some sort of simple cipher, and post the result LOL
Or, if you want people to understand you, you could just post the ascii
BTW, I have no idea what they decided to do with me, and I don't want to go check either because I'd rather not ruin my weekend. In any case, I didn't wait for the decision, and sent out the last of my RD apps yesterday. I'm posting in this forum on the basis of a blind and most likely groundless optimism (as I'll most likely rejected)
Cheers,
Posted by: Jimmy on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Jimmy on December 15, 2007
apparently i'm really stupid, and let my dad type in my username/password (it's just my name and birthday)... apparently he doesn't know my birthday...
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
and again, with the stupidity, I forgot to put my name...
Posted by: Prianka on December 15, 2007
Anywho I'm over the initial shock now. Good luck to all in March. Hope to see you at MIT next fall.
Posted by: Isaac on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Hmm...let's c...send them a letter with additional accomplishments since November(if there are any worth noting)...don't annoy them...I'm not sure what else we can do. Anyone else?
Posted by: Rich on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Evan on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Just got my letter from Caltech, I got deferred there too x.x At least a whole bunch of cool stuff has happened since I sent my apps in October
Posted by: bunny on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Anonymous on December 15, 2007
I really don't think that there's a quota of sorts on how many people from each pool they take. MIT simply accepts the best qualified, regardless of when your info reaches them.
I bet that the reason an unusually large number were accepted is because big name Ivies got rid of their early action option, shunting many of them to MIT. The admissions board probably accepted more than usual because they figure a typical student in this particular pool is less likely to choose MIT if they get in.
Posted by: ethan on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Rena on December 15, 2007
Well, time to get cracking on those other applications -- they aren't going to write themselves.
Anyway, here's hoping that we get in.
Posted by: Zach on December 15, 2007
I like one of the earlier comments, that we're just little fish now in a big pool. I've gone through my whole high school experience getting talked up as the smartest kid in the school and maybe even in the county. To get deferred was a smack in the face. But there is still March, and the application process has been going well for me in other places. To all you others out there in my situation, welcome to the world of intense competition. I was expecting to be admitted, but whatever. We'll see what happens. Enjoy your holiday season
Posted by: Aditya on December 15, 2007
darn
>.AAAAAAIIIIIIYYYYYYYYYAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!deferred......:(
darn
>.<
Posted by: Aleo on December 15, 2007
I hear ya.
Posted by: Archon on December 15, 2007
I know exactly what you mean. It does kinda hurt to be deferred after everyone fully expected me to get in. But competition makes everyone work that much harder, right? Besides, should that tube reach our mailboxes in March it'll be all the more sweeter.
Posted by: Mike on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Owen on December 15, 2007
got into my first choice college, so no probs tehre!
good luck to every1, these blogs were fun!
take care, and have good faith!
as some1 said earlier, if u want it bad enough, it'll happen!
Posted by: Anonymous on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: back_to_app on December 15, 2007
...?
Posted by: matt on December 15, 2007
Posted by: BB on December 15, 2007
Well, just gotta nail my last few grades in my classes now. I wonder if we can send in new material if stuff has changed?
Posted by: Collin on December 15, 2007
I don't think they send out Tubes for regular decision, I think MIT only does it for EA. Which sucks, because I'd love a tube, EA or not!
I want to petition for tubes for RD.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Well, this semester should bring my grades and my rank up (currently 19/189... curse you, 10th grade gym!). Maybe that will help come Regular Decision.
Posted by: Alex on December 15, 2007
Posted by: confused on December 15, 2007
I second that motion. Why shouldn't Regular Applicants get tubes? As long as everything is recycled in the end, paper OR tube, the world is fine.
Posted by: Anonymous #2 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: PeacenikPie on December 15, 2007
ah yes, I didn't know what a tube was just yesterday. I think in Ben Jones blog near the end we were discussing that accepted early applicants get a postal tube instead of an envelope. Check it out. Again, MIT is one step ahead of other institutions!
Posted by: archimedes on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: california on December 15, 2007
Besides, life wouldn't be nearly as interesting if everything was decided and finished on time...
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
good attitude. That's really what will make the difference!
Posted by: archimedes on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Taylor on December 15, 2007
Don't give up everyone.
Posted by: thomas on December 15, 2007
michael jordan didn't get on to his hs bball team on his first try
franklin didn't invent the lightbulb on his first try
we didn't get into MIT on our first try... maybe the second will be more successful
Posted by: _MIT_ on December 15, 2007
Posted by: california on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
I wouldn't be surprised if there were people at MIT who did that, but it would be interesting to know how many of them did before they applied;
also, darn you for posting in decimal instead of hex, with no punctuation whatsoever and almost all caps, lol)
Posted by: anon on December 15, 2007
Posted by: hamlets on December 15, 2007
Well said and great story. See you after break!
By the way, it's always kind of weird to be accepted to MIT or CalTech and be deferred from the other (happened to me), try not to think into it too much.
Posted by: Snively on December 15, 2007
Posted by: california on December 15, 2007
Hmmm...
Posted by: Stephanie on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: archimedes on December 15, 2007
By the way, I know a ton of people who were deferred and then accepted, so don't give up! I even know several who were waitlisted and admitted, and they are among the strongest students I know. (Like Ken, who actually lives on the floor above me in Simmons. ^_^) If they hadn't told me they were waitlisted, I never would have guessed. I think that just proves that a deferral from MIT truly is not a statement on your academic abilities.
Finally, for those of you reading this who are waiting to apply regular, that's what I did and I'm doing just fine. Although I'm still stressing over finals. :D
Posted by: Paul on December 15, 2007
Just a small town girl, livin' in a lonely world
She took the midnight train goin' anywhere
Just a city boy, born and raised in south detroit
He took the midnight train goin' anywhere
A singer in a smokey room
A smell of wine and cheap perfume
For a smile they can share the night
It goes on and on and on and on
Strangers waiting, up and down the boulevard
Their shadows searching in the night
Streetlight people, living just to find emotion
Hiding, somewhere in the night
Working hard to get my fill,
Everybody wants a thrill
Payin' anything to roll the dice,
Just one more time
Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the blues
Oh, the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on
(chorus)
Don't stop believin'
Hold on to the feelin'
Streetlight people
Posted by: archimedes on December 15, 2007
I also have a story for you:
between 11:00 pm central (mit release) and 3 pm (when i got caltech news), i probably gained 5 lbs. of sadness binging weight. thank god that other letter arrived...
well, mit>caltech (not to say the "other" institute is bad or anything...) in my eyes, so i hope regular stuff goes well.
Posted by: keshav p on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Scott C on December 15, 2007
It's tough, being in your position. You may be disappointed. You may be angry. You may be thinking, "C'MON, JUST MAKE A DECISION ALREADY." And it's tough.
But if MIT's your dream, don't give up. Write a letter to MIT. Alert them to new things that may change things - new awards, activities, etc. Remember, there's a decent chance you'll be admitted regular. Early Action applicants tend to be at the TOP of the MIT pool of applicants. You guys were essentially told that, "Of the best, you're definitely a contender." Many of you may hate to hear that, since to get to this point you *had* to be the best - that kind of fades here at MIT. It fades because 1) everyone's so dang smart, and 2) there's no more class rank or anything to worry about anymore, so you just learn to learn.
Don't be disappointed. Just keep trying.
Posted by: Hunter '11 on December 15, 2007
So getting into Caltech means I'm academically competitive at some level, does this means I have a potentially good chance for the MIT regular decision? :D
Also, I know MIT asks not to send a resume, but say I get published or I have some state and national awards that didn't fit on the application or that are recently new, are the deferred allowed to send this kind of info in?
Posted by: M on December 15, 2007
Or maybe it did? Perhaps that's why I was deferred too... oh well. At least it kept me sane.
Posted by: PeacenikPie on December 15, 2007
-Ben
Posted by: BMG on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Dan on December 15, 2007
*sigh* the wait has extended...
but that's ok...i knew i was going to be deferred. (and, thankfully, i wasn't rejected)
at any rate, i'm not giving up. MIT is such an awesome place and I wish everyone the best of luck getting in. :D
Posted by: mathstar-future course 16(?) on December 15, 2007
It's not the wait that sucks for me, it's the massive number of apps I have to do now... yay, Christmas break!
Posted by: Anirvan M. on December 15, 2007
@Will - I disagree that acceptance at one theoretically means acceptance at another. Yes, they're both top schools in engineering, but consider this - MIT and Caltech may be looking for different things in a student. I have my own opinions on this that I won't go into, but the two being at the top does not make them the same. (Plus, this is even physically impossible. MIT accepts more students than Caltech, who has a class of about 250.)
Posted by: Hunter '11 on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Zev on December 15, 2007
@Will, same here.
Posted by: ty on December 15, 2007
Thanks for the input, would I just send an email to admissions or would a formal typed letter on school stationary with teacher or principle validation that the awards I am claiming are valid be more appropriate?
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Aleu on December 15, 2007
Yeah, we are "stuck in between"- however, I think we should be pretty freakin' proud of ourselves though- this probably mean we could get in RD anyhwere else in the country....
although i want MIT dangit :(
I think we should start a support group on facebook...any takers?
Posted by: MarylandmyMaryland on December 15, 2007
Not quite sure what to believe in anymore.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
I think I need to go hug something.
Posted by: Liz on December 15, 2007
My school gets personalized senior shirts for seniors.
I ordered one with my name in hexdecimal on it!!! ^-^ ( binary wouldn't fit)
@Liz : *hug*
It wasn't fun when all my friends got in..and i am the only one that got deferred.
they all super deserved it though!!
3 more month! good luck everyone!
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
"When we admit a class of students to MIT, it's as if we're choosing a 1,000-person team to climb a very interesting, fairly rugged mountain - together. We obviously want people who have the training, stamina and passion for the climb. At the same time, we want each to add something useful or intriguing to the team, from a wonderful temperament or sense of humor, to compelling personal experiences, to a wide range of individual gifts, talents, interests and achievements. We are emphatically not looking for a batch of identical perfect climbers; we are looking for a richly varied team of capable people who will support, surprise and inspire each other."
I attended President Hockfield's convocation speech this fall, and her description of the entering class stressed its diversity. The students are drawn from all areas of the country and around the world. Some come to MIT from urban areas; others come to MIT from ranches in the midwest or rural areas in Latin America. In the current freshman class there are strong mathematicians and budding scientists and engineers, but among these are visual artists, athletes, musicians, dancers, actors, comedians, entrepreneurs, humanitarian -- you name it.
If you were deferred, it's a disappointment right now. But this is no reflection on your qualifications, your passion, or your potential.
Posted by: MIT parent on December 15, 2007
if you start a facebook group and post the link here, I will definitely join.
Posted by: stephanie on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Alex on December 15, 2007
And I still haven't heard back from Caltech.
In the meantime, I will worry. I will cry. I will work arduously on regular decision applications. And I will pay those goddamn fees (upwards of $700.) But now, now I shall play Nethack.
Posted by: PeacenikPie on December 15, 2007
GO AGGIES!!! (my bro went there)
Posted by: archimedes on December 16, 2007
Posted by: Matthew on December 16, 2007
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Posted by: ben on December 16, 2007
Here's a cause worth fighting for (besides getting into MIT in March): TUBES FOR THOSE ACCEPTED RD!
How's about it, Matt ? =D
Posted by: 0 on December 16, 2007
Still keep up hope. Unlike most universities (including Caltech), MIT admits a smaller percentage of earlies than regulars. So applying early to MIT doesn't increase your chances of getting in and we all have a fair shot at regular
Posted by: Jenny on December 16, 2007
maybe it will be a nice birthday present?
Posted by: Marty on December 16, 2007
Here's a cause worth fighting for (besides getting into MIT in March): TUBES FOR THOSE ACCEPTED RD!
After all, from what I can garner the tubes for EA acceptances are a recent addition to the MIT tradition, so why not include the RD acceptances? I would certainly love to get a tube, even if I don't have a Christmas tree to put it under...
Here's to a good St. Patty's Weekend 2008!
Posted by: Me on December 16, 2007
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Posted by: Leko on December 16, 2007
MIT was my last app that I had to fill out, until I did a last minute Cal Poly one, now I gotta wait 3-4 months before I hear from my last 3 colleges.
WE SHALL PRESERVE OUR WILL PERSEVERE!
hehe I love funny plays on words, if that even is one
Posted by: Collin on December 16, 2007
Posted by: Leko on December 16, 2007
I think we can all agree that more than anything it's just frustrating to wait. (I'm torn in a weird sense, because I'm attached to my home town, Austin, and the engineering school here is also very good.) Anyway, let's just try to be patient and rid ourselves of any bitterness. MIT is a beautiful place, and it's a priviledge to go there. If we get in, then we'll celebrate and see each other next year!! If not, we still have so much to be grateful for =)
I hope we're lucky enough to be in Cambridge next year. I WISH THE BEST OF LUCK TO EVERYONE!
Posted by: Goli on December 16, 2007
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Posted by: M. on December 16, 2007
All will be ok. Your future is promising regardless of the decision in march =)
-Justin, c/o '07
Posted by: Justin on December 16, 2007
Yea, I've read that climbing analogy somewhere. Oh well, I'm just kind of disappointed =/. Thanks for your encouragement though.
Posted by: ty on December 16, 2007
1. please let us get tubes for RD. it sounds SO exciting. otherwise, I'll just have to watch my friend open his.
2. yup definitely bummed me out. but that just means i'm gonna work even harder. get into the others, do well on my finals, qualify for AIME again and hopefully get a 5.
well, i'll send a letter, keep my hopes up and try to remember, or believe, hard as it is, that if i'm supposed to get in, i will. and if i don't, i wasn't supposed it. and though i've been waiting for this for as long as i can remember, it will work out. if i get waitlisted, i'm staying on it. mit is my DREAM school. if i get in, it'll make all my hard work worth it. i thought that before, then i went and visited, and at that point, i knew it was right. it was AMAZING. couldn't think of any place better. but i guess i haven't looked at the other places. I don't know.
keep a positive outlook and if you really want it that bad (as many of us do) they i wish us all the best and maybe, hopefully, whatever the word is that means i really really really hope it happens, we will get in. yaaaay for us. we're still in the running!
david, the still hopeful mit'12 student.
Posted by: David '12 hopeful on December 16, 2007
Posted by: Matthew on December 16, 2007
Posted by: Will on December 16, 2007
Oh wait, I only got deferred?
Shoot.
Posted by: EmoEmoEmo on December 16, 2007
Posted by: ... on December 16, 2007
Obviously everyone applying wants a yes, but you lot got the second best answer. Be proud of yourselves, because just the fact that you felt you could be a part of MIT, worked hard, and didn't get shot down at the first weeding out.
Celebrate the fact that there is still hope. And of course other schools, but honestly who wants to hear that?
Take it from me, I got a flat out rejection.
Posted by: ups on December 16, 2007
Posted by: hoping on December 16, 2007
Posted by: locke on December 16, 2007
Posted by: ups on December 16, 2007
Look at the bright side: "10.9 % of those deferred were accepted." And around 5% of us international students get accepted. You guys have a much higher chance of success and it shows since you're not flat-out rejected!
Being in RA is purgatory. It's even worse that I still haven't taken my SATs and have to cram 3 years of math & physics in 1 month of revision. It's much worse that my 'long essay' is horrible because I have so much to write, but I only get 500 words :/ (though I'm hoping my optional essay will make up for it). True, I should try liberal arts.. I'm an art person, inclined towards literature and philosophy, it's just that my skills (not talent) are in computers and electronics. Us RA applicants might have the 'advantage' of being able to edit our applications, but it's quite the stressful 'advantage'.
But I guess we're all in the same boat. It's really quite sad that not all of us would make it to the same island.. but I'm sure most of us will do well (like perhaps that guy who was admitted for caltech, but deferred for MIT.. maybe you're more suited for caltech since they admitted you EA).
Posted by: Anonymus on December 16, 2007
By the new year, my machine will be perfected and ready for showing. In addition to that, my essay on my views on intelligence (proving my points mathematically) will be completed.
I'M GETTING IN.
Posted by: DetroitMan on December 16, 2007
*is waiting impatiently for march*
Posted by: Rachel on December 16, 2007
we're all competing against the best of the best. We're all brilliant, so if we loose its nothing shameful. It's not like we're loosing to a douche (or a whole class of douches) we're loosing to some of the best students ever.
Maybe that's a bit of consolation. I'm not sure. like I said, just a thought.
Posted by: ups on December 16, 2007
http://hs.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6608972514
Posted by: Evan on December 16, 2007
But I really did hope I would get in EA...@ethan - I want to be in the big pond, I have always wanted to be a little fish and have bigger fish to look up to, to drive me further. I've always wanted a challenge...I guess I won't get that. I'll settle for the PSU Band.
Posted by: Rav_Dawg on December 16, 2007
Good Luck!
A Mom
PS - I didn't go to MIT, or any named school (dirt poor). But I have plenty of MIT & Ivy grads on my staff reporting into my lower level managers
Posted by: I Love Math on December 16, 2007
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Posted by: Hunter '11 on December 16, 2007
More specifically, TUBES FOR RD FOLKS. Exciting.
Posted by: 0 on December 16, 2007
Are you referencing the Island or Good Morning poem?
Posted by: Pooja on December 16, 2007
Posted by: Doris on December 16, 2007
...my first thought was 'that's an awkward fraction'
Good luck to everyone during RA! I'll be right there with you
Posted by: Karen on December 16, 2007
Did Juan (that kid you talked about on your blog) get in?
Posted by: OmarA on December 16, 2007
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Posted by: Carolina on December 16, 2007
I got a "holistic" english teacher this year who gave me my first C ever.
Am I doomed?
Posted by: Regularjoe on December 16, 2007
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Posted by: Eric on December 16, 2007
Haha, yeah I had I think 10 dreams and woke up about 14 times the night before.
Posted by: Perry on December 16, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 16, 2007
Other than that, the wait DOES stink, and also the fact that I received my acceptance letter into Caltech after finding out that MIT deferred me, so it wasn't as happy as it was meant to be-
T
Posted by: TJ on December 16, 2007
I am just about finished with my internship at a local college and have been posting regularly as "anonymous." If I send a report concerning that and other recent happenings to the admissions office, could that possibly improve my chances of getting in RA? I was slightly disappointed by the deferral but I still insanely love MIT! It's been my dream since I was like...born...lol
Oh yes and by the way, CONGRATULATIONS to all the EA admits! 88 to all of you! (That's luck in Chinese!)
Posted by: HappilyNerdy88 on December 16, 2007
Posted by: archimedes on December 16, 2007
Guess it was kind of accurate.
Posted by: Anonymous #2 on December 16, 2007
Posted by: Mike on December 16, 2007
now how to tip the scales...
Posted by: M. on December 16, 2007
Posted by: tuber on December 16, 2007
Why were more female students admitted than male in the EA , or in another word, more males deferred than females ? The observation is based on my reading on collegeconfidential, and it is by no means accurate statistically.
Thanks
Posted by: AParent on December 17, 2007
Which reminds me, check this out:
http://web.mit.edu/planning/www/mithenge.html
(Yes, I'm a future astronomer! =])
Posted by: Carolina on December 17, 2007
Ah, well, whatever MIT. Your call.
Posted by: poo on December 17, 2007
These are two different questions. I have a feeling more males than females apply to MIT, so it's logical to assume more males than females would be deferred. I doubt more females than males were admitted, though, given that MIT is has slightly more men than women.
Posted by: Hunter '11 on December 17, 2007
i've been looking forward to this day for ages. still glad i've got a chance, but will hate telling my parents.
and i've a math test in an hour.
Posted by: caylin on December 17, 2007
Last year there were more male early admits than female admits, but as I recall, there were more females posting on the blogs. MIT's newspaper, The Tech, will report the EA statistics when they become available. You can access online version of The Tech by searching on MIT's main webpage.
Posted by: MITParent on December 17, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 17, 2007
i didn't really want to go before, just applied for the heck of it, but now, OMG I WILL GET IN!!
Posted by: 0 on December 17, 2007
Posted by: Marissa on December 17, 2007
Quotas anyone?
Posted by: 0 on December 17, 2007
Posted by: Matt on December 17, 2007
I had finished a research paper, but not before the early application was due, so I wasn't able to send it in to MIT. Am I allowed to send it in now?
Posted by: Benu on December 17, 2007
So much for knowing if I got into my safety or my stretch by Christmas.
There are way to many posts here to read them all, and I'm sure nobody will read mine, but this is a nice little feature.
Posted by: Will on December 17, 2007
Anyhow, regarding quotas...there are definitely some lurking variables. Just because there are more male applicants than female applicants doesn't mean they are equally qualified. I think the way society is right now (although we're shifting away from it) is that more men feel like they could get in. Similarly, perhaps a smaller amount of women (those that are more qualified) think they'll be able to get in, but actually do.
Quotas? Maybe, but I'll remain optimistic.
Posted by: Will on December 17, 2007
Posted by: ANon on December 17, 2007
Think about your deferral in this overly optimistic way:
If MIT didn't see any potential in you or did not want to admit you, you would have already been rejected. Your deferral simply means that MIT wants to admit you, but needs a little more reason for it. All you have to do is further demonstrate to them that you are a qualified applicant.
Best of luck!
Posted by: optimistic on December 17, 2007
Posted by: anon on December 17, 2007
Bah, it's not fun being deferred! I guess I'll just consider a challenge to work even harder to get in
Posted by: DHowdy on December 17, 2007
Posted by: Hunter '11 on December 18, 2007
Posted by: Anon12 on December 18, 2007
Don't let your hopes fall people - got to fight for what you want!
Posted by: Mihir Sheth on December 18, 2007
Actually, being male myself, I don't really mind that women have statistically twice the chance of getting accepted. If there really were 30% of females in a class, there'd be quite a bit more negative competition in the class since people tend to be a bit competitive with members of the same sex in front of members of the opposite sex. I heard it's worse if the minority of the class were male, as my friends in medical schools say. So, be happy even if there is a quota
Posted by: Anonymus on December 18, 2007
I had finished a research paper, but not before the early application was due, so I wasn't able to send it in to MIT. Am I allowed to send it in now?
Posted by: Gretzky on December 18, 2007
This is 2007. Will we ever get away from sexist attitudes? I applaud MIT for looking at the *person*, and not the gender.
Posted by: Anonymous on December 18, 2007
http://web.mit.edu/ir/cds/2007/c.html
Posted by: anON on December 18, 2007
Yes I agree that gender should not play a role in the admission decisions, but i am sure that it does, in that most institutions strive to accept the same percentage of both in the overall class. Therefore if less girls apply they have a better chance of getting in. I am not saying that males are more qualified. I would just like to see the results if filling in the gender oval was not part of the app.
Posted by: ANon on December 18, 2007
Posted by: Leko on December 18, 2007
Theres even a section on the MIT admission site labled "affirmative action"...
besides... its not like someone who is one fourth hispanic or african american is really going to diversify the school any more that someone who isnt.
Also, there really arent any races, all people were created equal and all humans are of one blood. Its been shown that the genetic variation between all people who arent closely related is about 2%, regardless of what race that they are classified as, and that the "racial distinctions" are comprised of only .12% of the genome.
There is also the fact that everyone is decendent from Adam and Eve who were created about 6,000 years ago, and that everyone is also decendent from Noah's family who were the sole survivors of the global Flood about 4500 years ago, in which the sediment layers and fossils were laid down, and when the continents drifted apart... Well I'm probably alone in this idea here, and if i end up getting into MIT i'd be one of the few if not the only Young Earth Creationists there.
(notice that this is anonomyous, because i'd like to avoid being discriminated against because of it)
Posted by: 0 on December 19, 2007
Posted by: wow. on December 19, 2007
at the anonymous young earth creationist,
Are you Catholic by any chance? Because the Catholic Church officially supports the Big Bang theory.
Posted by: 0 on December 19, 2007
I totally agree that female and male acceptance chances should be equal. But these statistics show that it is not. I agree with Hunter '11 about the self-selectiveness of girls fighting the stereotype of "girl don't do science." This fact still does not make it ok for girls to have a higher acceptance rate.
I see no solution to this in the end unless someday in the future we are all assigned numbers at birth and not sex-identifiable names and sex is not a check box on the application. But until then, and the day that pigs levitate, we guys will just have to be more competitive...especially if you're white.
Posted by: Leko on December 19, 2007
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Posted by: Anonymous on December 19, 2007
There are actually plenty of scientists that support Creation, and plenty more who actually realize the many flaws in evolutionary axioms and ideas. For example the origin of life... even renowned scientists such as Francic Crick (discovered DNA shape with James Watson) have grave doubts about it, Crick has been quoted on his belief that because the conditions on earth couldnt have been right for the origination of cells, the first prokaryotic cells must have come from space, where there was some different planet on which the life could have originated...
Yeah, i should probably stop now, before the MIT defferal forum gets hijacked and made into a creation/evolution debate.....
Posted by: 0 on December 20, 2007
The idea that the Earth was created 6,000 years ago is laughably absurd and anti-scientific. Those scientists who you cited may believe in a God (so did Einstein), but surely would never let their idea of God, as written down in some antiquated book, stand in the way of provable, verifiable, irrefutable scientific fact. That so few creationists apply to MIT is not a conspiracy against creationists, but the fact that that group approaches the evidence with the conclusion already firmly in mind. There's no skepticism. And that's not science.
Sorry, somebody had to say it. Religion must not be allowed to stand in the way of science. Ethics, absolutely. But not religion -- because the two systems, insofar as they overlap, are fundamentally not compatible. (On the other hand, in the intellectual realms in which science has no presence, like the afterlife, apply religious principles all you want!)
Posted by: 0 on December 20, 2007
First, religion does not stand against science. In fact, mine very strongly supports science because it lets us to appreciate God's creation.
Like in religion, science is all theoretical. The afterlife noted in religion is there because 'a book said it'. Same goes for science. Someone wrote the book either ways. We may never really know when the Earth was created, but we can either deduce it from calculations or holy books.
The reason I say this is that scientists can be very fanatical about what they beleive is true, but when someone pops up and says something 'impossible' like claiming that he created energy out of nothing, they would shoot him down with religious fervor. It's just not good for science and it makes me sad to see how so many great scientists were fired from their universities after publishing a book, then considered as pioneer in his field after he's dead.
And well, I wouldn't like to be fired by a MIT graduate in the future for discovering a way to go past the speed of light
Posted by: Also Anonymous on December 20, 2007
Scientific theories can be proven wrong. Religious theories cannot be proven wrong. Fundamentally opposite. That's why the two are not compatible in the domains where they overlap.
If you proved that one could go faster than the speed of light by applying scientific principles and gathering evidence, the scientific community would (perhaps not immediately, but after review) embrace that. But if you proved that, say, life was created through purely random processes over billions of years -- your theory is instantly wrong as far as religion is concerned, no matter how much evidence you collect. (Oh, and by the way, that theory is far more beautiful to me than a theory that God snapped his fingers and everything appeared. As soon as God starts snapping his fingers, I run!)
And the reason religion can't be allowed to interrupt scientific progress has nothing to do with fanaticism. The difference is that religion hasn't brought us the flat-screen television, particle accelerators or GPS. It's brought us understanding of how things behave when they move super fast or when they are super small. Science is how progress is made. Can't you see why, especially to those of us who don't believe that there's an afterlife, religion is so frustrating?
And as for "how so many great scientists were fired from their universities after publishing a book", perhaps you recall the story of Galileo, who was excommunicated from the church after publishing HIS scientific results. Or how many young potential scientists were dissuaded from that path after the Scopes trial or the more recent "Intelligent Design" controversy. So to look at the opposite point: how many great scientists were lost due to religion's presence in realms where it does not belong?
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