Hi folks,
So sorry for the delay in posting this - we wanted to be very confident in the decision release date before announcing it publicly.
We're on schedule to release MIT admissions decisions online at 12:00PM EST on Saturday, December 15. (Decisions will also be sent via postal mail around this time, give or take a day or two.) If this date/time changes for any reason, I will announce it here, but I do not foresee that happening at this juncture.
Decisions will be available to those who meet all of the following criteria:
- You have applied for freshman admission (not transfer or graduate).
- You have applied Early Action and your intended entry year (as designated in your MyMIT account) is 2008.
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What is the process for receiving my admissions decision online?
In order to check your decision online, you will need to have registered for a MyMIT account and you will need to know your username and password. When decisions are released, simply visit https://decisions.mit.edu and log in using the same username and password that you use to log into your MyMIT account. There are no interim screens, so you should be sure you wish to receive your decision online before logging in to decisions.mit.edu.
We will not be in the office on the weekend that decisions are released, so to prevent any delays, you should confirm your username and password well in advance by visiting https://decisions.mit.edu and following the instructions there.
What if I've forgotten my MyMIT password?
You may use our automated system to reset it. Simply visit my.mit.edu and click on the "lost password" link.
What if I don't have a MyMIT account?
If you applied using our online application, you already have a MyMIT account.
If you applied using our paper application, however, you might not. If you do not have a MyMIT account and you wish to receive your decision online, you will need to register for one using your MIT ID, which was sent to you via postal mail soon after receiving your paper application. If you have misplaced your MIT ID, or if you never received it, you may call our office (617.253.3400) to request it.
If you register for a MyMIT account without your MIT ID, your username and password may not work on decisions.mit.edu.
Will there be any indication of my admissions decision in my MyMIT account?
Admitted students will see the addition of the Admitted Student Portlet in their my.mit.edu account sometime during the week of December 17. (Deferred and denied applicants will not see a change.)
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Less than 6 days! Hang in there everyone. :-)
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and very excited about decisions :D
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Posted by: Raghav on December 10, 2007
Haha.
Posted by: Tong on December 10, 2007
I'm scheduled to work that day from 11-7.
It's official. God hates me. It's not like I've been waiting for this day for 6 years or anything.
Posted by: Shannon on December 10, 2007
~Anna
Posted by: Anna on December 10, 2007
Posted by: anon on December 10, 2007
The MIT Admissions Blog has become my number one most visited site. I've been waiting for this blog my entire life (ok maybe just since November, but still). Just six more days of suspense...
Good luck to everyone who applied and I hope to see you all next fall!
Posted by: Matt (Hopeful '12) on December 10, 2007
Just remember there's more to education than A's B's C's and D's.
Ever wondered what happens to the E's .MIT is closed to them right?
Posted by: paranoidchrondiac on December 10, 2007
sigh... and now it comes down to a single day... well not really but still kinda feels like it don't it? Best of luck to everyone, remember there are many opportunities out there, MIT just happens to be one of the very best of them ;D
cheers
Posted by: enewts on December 10, 2007
Posted by: paranoidchrondiac on December 10, 2007
eat some strawberry shortcake, do your homework, stay up all night Thursday, so you will be tired Friday- then sleep Friday night. get up, take grandma to breakfast on Saturday, and then check the decision.
oh, and wear your pajamas inside out and backwards...if it works for snow, why not MIT?
Posted by: marylandmymaryland on December 10, 2007
Thank you for pulling through by the 15th! OMG FIVE MORE DAYS
Posted by: rachel on December 10, 2007
That's not to say, however, that I would like to wait longer. I've told many people I'd rather get outright turned down now than to be deferred. Maybe that isn't just me?
Posted by: AwayfromHome on December 10, 2007
AHHHH. I'm dying.
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Posted by: Travis on December 10, 2007
This is intense.
Posted by: Marissa on December 10, 2007
I can't believe it's here. Less than a week away. Holy guacamole!
P.S. I hope I get in. It would be a VERY sweet early Christmas present!
Posted by: Amit on December 10, 2007
Posted by: White Tube on December 10, 2007
YAY!!!
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!
=)
Posted by: Jing Jing on December 10, 2007
Posted by: Yayasoup on December 10, 2007
Oh. My. Goodness.
I can't believe it's really here...
Posted by: BB on December 10, 2007
I have been waiting for a week for this blog post! Thanks!!
Posted by: OmarA on December 10, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
..Now off to study for a test on Julius Caesar that my Lit teacher decided to spring on us today...
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!
(I really mean it, I'm not just half-heartedly throwing it out there.)
Posted by: Meghan on December 10, 2007
i want a tube!!
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Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
ahhh! *spazzes out*
Posted by: Anonymous on December 10, 2007
Wouldn't it be beautifully ironic if the MIT admissions server(s) crashed on the 15th at 11:59:59 AM EST?
Posted by: Daniel on December 10, 2007
Admissions staff, before I have any reason to have my feelings swayed one way or the other, I'd like to say thank you for everything you do. I can't conceive of how hard your job is. So, as I said, thank you for doing it so that some of us can have a great experience the next four (or more, course VI MEng program, for example) years of our lives.
And in case I find myself less evenhanded later, anticipative congratulations to everyone who shall make it and best of luck in regular to those who are deferred.
See you all Saturday,
~Donald Guy
Posted by: donaldGuy on December 10, 2007
Furthermore, GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY!
Posted by: Travis on December 10, 2007
Posted by: Stephanie on December 10, 2007
So you can take a breather, before another round comes in on Jan 1?
Also, good luck everyone!
Posted by: Oasis on December 10, 2007
Posted by: :) on December 10, 2007
Nerviousnessssssssss
Good luck all
Posted by: Lydia on December 10, 2007
On Saturday, when we all read the decision that we have eagerly awaited, let us all be sure to remember that college, like everything else in life, is only as excellent as we make it, and that attending any institute of higher education is a wonderful opportunity to which we are fortunate to have access. To those who are admitted to MIT, congratulations, and I hope that you take every advantage of this wonderful opportunity--academic, social, cultural, athletic, and otherwise. And to those who attend another university, be assured that, once recovering from initial disappointment, you will also have a wonderful college experience, as long as you approach it with a positive attitude. This applies to the students of every university, including MIT. These are the years of our lives, when we are free from many of the obligations with which we may find ourselves a few years down the road, and when we are expected to explore, learn, create, laugh and enjoy. So do so, and celebrate your achievement, whether in Cambridge, California, Kansas, or Canada. In the end, the four or five years of college are the start of our adult lives, so let us all get off to a positive and constructive start by maintaining our perspective and focusing on what we have achieved, for surely every one of us is unique and has done wonderful things, whether at a personal or international level.
That being said, I wish you all the best of luck for Saturday, which will be an exciting day for all of us. But, please keep in mind that being deferred or rejected from MIT should not be an event that one would describe in the "end of the world" question with which we are all quite familiar. Instead, at our age, multitudes of doors of opportunity are opening, the only question is which ones.
Thanks again to all of admissions for helping all of us through this process, and I wish all 2012 prospective students the very best, wherever they decide to go!
Sincerely,
Erika Bildsten
Posted by: Erika Bildsten on December 10, 2007
Best wishes to all of you! The wait is almost over.
Posted by: Paul on December 10, 2007
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Posted by: OmarA. on December 10, 2007
Good luck people!
Posted by: Reg on December 10, 2007
Thank you admissions officers for keeping us so informed on the selection process.
I'm really excited!! =] I'm not nervous at all, because I know you guys will make good decisions.
Good lucky everyone.
Posted by: Amy on December 10, 2007
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Posted by: bokonon on December 10, 2007
Big tubes, decisions, and fraught.
I see no reason why my MIT decision,
Should ever be forgot.
We all just have to remind ourselves that Saturday will not be Armageddon, Doomsday, or anything of the sort, however the decisions turn out.
Posted by: Keshav P on December 10, 2007
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Posted by: Anonymous on December 10, 2007
Now that I found out...Oh God. What was once calm is now a calamity.
Best Wishes to Everyone!
Posted by: Duane on December 10, 2007
Thank you, MIT, for giving us these blogs - Though I haven't really commented much, I've read every single one of them... it made the MIT admissions process memorable
Posted by: Vani on December 10, 2007
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Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
Maybe it would be better if all of us clicked that little 'x' on this screen and stepped away from the computer. By focusing on other things, be it homework, other applications, friends, whatever, it may make the time go by quicker, while at the same time lessening the anxiety.
Now I just have to find out if I have the self control to do such a thing.
Posted by: Meghan on December 10, 2007
Posted by: Eric - Hopeful '12 on December 10, 2007
actually...I guess all I'll be doing is dreaming even when I'm awake...
computers have it so much easier
int days = 6;
try
{
Thread.sleep(6*24*60*60*1000);
}
catch (Exception e)
{
e.printStackTrace();
}
there's some java for you guys, hope you enjoy
Posted by: Matt F on December 10, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
Except, at 11:00 CST I will be in the middle of a Student Congress session! AAAH!!! Maybe our sponsor will let me check my decision on her laptop while we're there...
Posted by: Karen on December 10, 2007
// * MIT ADMISSIONS DECISION COUNTDOWN * //
/Applications /Installer Log File /Library /Network /System /User Guides And Information /Users /Volumes /Xcode3.1.4 /bin /cores /dev /etc /home /mach_kernel /net /private /sbin /tmp /usr /var
Time Left until 12:00 PM, 15 December 2007
*/
////////// CONFIGURE THE COUNTDOWN SCRIPT HERE //////////////////
var month = '12'; // '*' for next month, '0' for this month or 1 through 12 for the month
var day = '15'; // Offset for day of month day or + day
var hour = 12; // 0 through 23 for the hours of the day
var tz = -5; // Offset for your timezone in hours from UTC
var lab = 'tzcd'; // The id of the page entry where the timezone countdown is to show
function start() {displayTZCountDown(setTZCountDown(month,day,hour,tz),lab);}
// * The start function can be changed if required *
window.onload = start;
////////// DO NOT EDIT PAST THIS LINE //////////////////
function setTZCountDown(month,day,hour,tz)
{
var toDate = new Date();
if (month == '*')toDate.setMonth(toDate.getMonth() + 1);
else if (month > 0)
{
if (month
The countdown script at
Rainbow Arch
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Posted by: Liz '11 on December 10, 2007
w00t
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Posted by: Amanda on December 10, 2007
(Now to focus on my last high school Final ever)
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Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
System.out.println("YOU GOT REJECTED");
is enough for me =]
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Posted by: Sam on December 10, 2007
"Just got done making a program countdown which will open up firefox 1 hour before decisions are released."
how...?
I'm fascinated and I'd be able to do it in Java but what language are you using?
Posted by: Matt F on December 10, 2007
Posted by: Sam M on December 10, 2007
Saturday Noon Eastern time would be 9 AM California time (if my time zones are savvy today)... Wow...
Before this blog, I was more along the lines: "WHEN WILL WE KNOW!!! MUST KNOW MUST KNOW!! WHEN! WHEN! WHEN!"
Now, I'm simply: "Do I REALLY want to know? I mean... I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to know!! But then, I don't... But I DO!! wait... what??"
Whatever happens, BEST OF LUCK to EVERYONE, EA and RA.
And infinite tokens of thanks and kudos to MIT Admissions for all their hard work.
Most importantly, whatever happens,
PHYSICS ALL THE WAY!!
Posted by: Anon9 on December 10, 2007
(my stomach is balling up. If it were bigger, it'd be a small black hole... and then I'd never be able to go, cause it wouldn't be there...)
Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
That is a must have!
Good luck to all and may we all have a great gift for Christmas/the Winter Holidays from MIT!
PS: MIT has just made me lose track of whatever events I have this week because of the distraction of anticipation.
Posted by: Kevin on December 10, 2007
Posted by: OmarA. on December 10, 2007
system("firefox");
^typing firefox in BASH Shell opens firefox.
system is basically Windows' start command (or whatever Windows uses in DOS to execute program, haven't been on Windows in awhile).
I'll probably post the code later, but not a lot of people are running a linux server with PHP on their home boxes !
Posted by: Amit on December 10, 2007
not going to cry, not going to cry....
Posted by: Shantini on December 10, 2007
Posted by: dushy on December 10, 2007
Oddly enough, I also had a Quiz Bowl competition when (regular) decisions came out. Personally, I didn't even try to check my decision, despite having access to the Internet. I made that choice because my focus that day was simply the competition, whose outcome I could change - and not the admissions decision, which was out of my hands.
So of course, ultimately it's up to you whether you want to check or not; but my personal advice would be to wait.
Posted by: Paul on December 10, 2007
Good luck!
Posted by: Laser on December 10, 2007
Saturday!!!
Cant wait!!
im sooooo nervous....i have dreaming of MIT since i was in 8th grade...
Posted by: Natalie on December 10, 2007
i have a speech competition that day! I get what Paul is trying to say, but i feel like i would not be able to perform as well with this on my mind! This should be interesting...
I'm bringing my laptop to the competition...
Posted by: Plan A on December 10, 2007
Ben
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Posted by: Calvin on December 10, 2007
I'm so scared... this is going to be THE moment...
and thanks for letting us know about the date and time... I was braced for a 12/20 decision or something, heh.
Posted by: Nimu on December 10, 2007
Waiting is killing me... or to put that more mathematically, my stress level is inversely proportional to the time until the deadline
T- 401220 seconds and counting...
Posted by: Ben G on December 10, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
Thanks to all the admissions staff for working so hard to get these done!
And, of course, good luck all!
Posted by: Ben P. on December 10, 2007
Posted by: OmarA on December 10, 2007
Posted by: OmarA on December 10, 2007
Also, I'm glad the admissions office did not rush the EA decision. With all the additional EA applications this year, we can be assured each application was given its fair share of attention.
Posted by: Chris T. on December 10, 2007
and how many applied this year?
just wondering
Posted by: A'non Imus on December 10, 2007
When all I've done -
All the dreaming,
Scheming and screaming,
Become one!
I felt that some Jekyll and Hyde lyrics were fitting. = ) (Nimu's post got me going.)
Posted by: Rachel on December 10, 2007
(and the girl screams, "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I DON'T KNOW.")
Posted by: Natasha on December 10, 2007
Good luck to everyone.
Posted by: Jennifer on December 10, 2007
But the odds are there. A glimmer of hope lies in those odds, and it is that small stream of random photons that we, the prospective body, must cling to. So, cling, ye relentless pursuers of greatness, cling on and cling proudly, because you've gotten this far, and that means you've got ambition. And ambition will stick with you forever.
Was that too dramatic? And I say "you", but I'm one of the number. Fingers, toes, appendages, even down to every DNA strand crossed for the best candidates to win! And me, please...
GOOD LUCK!
Posted by: E Rosser (With Luck) '12 on December 10, 2007
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Posted by: OmarA on December 10, 2007
Thanks
Good luck again!
Posted by: Laser on December 10, 2007
Disp "REJECTED. LOSER"
println("Rejected. Loser.");
printf("Rejected. Loser.n");
Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
egads! i have a soccer game that i have to be at at 8:30 WST (11:30 AM EST).... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
ImageIcon ii = new ImageIcon("Rejected_Loser.png");
Image i = ii.getImage();
g.drawImage(i, 600,400,this);
lolz
Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
Posted by: alejandro on December 10, 2007
Whatever happens, happens. Don't worry too much about it.
MIT is a great school and I really want to go but it's not the end of the world if not.
"You got your passion, you got your pride,
but don't you know that only fools are satisfied?
Dream on but don't imagine they'll all come true..."
- Billy Joel, 'Vienna'
Hey, good luck to all, don't stress too much over it!
Relax, it's okay to dream and be excited but don't make it hard on yourself.
Worrying doesn't accomplish anything, so do something else.
Posted by: Mike on December 10, 2007
I'm going to be in a rehearsal at that time, and I could get my mom to check it, then tell me; however, there is no way that I would be able to do that and still make it through the rest of rehearsal, no matter the decision. Also, I feel the need to see the results myself before anyone else.
AHHH! Almost here!
Posted by: Taylor on December 10, 2007
And also, "Vienna" is my ABSOLUTE favorite song. =]
Posted by: BB on December 10, 2007
"where's the fire what's the hurry about?
You better cool it off before you burn it out
You've got so much to do and only so many hours in a day
But you know that when the truth is told
that you can get what you want or you can just get old
You're gonna kick it off before you even get halfway through"
Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
"So far away we wait for the day,
For the light source so wasted and gone;
We feel the pain of a lifetime lost in a thousand days-
Through the fire and the flames we carry on!"
Lawl, GH3 FTW
Posted by: Laser on December 10, 2007
Posted by: Michelle L. on December 10, 2007
Posted by: Amit on December 10, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
Remember remember this mid of December,
Big tubes, decisions, and fraught.
I see no reason why my MIT decision,
Should ever be forgot.
Applicants, Applicants, 'tis our intent,
To MIT student status, ascent.
Scores of thousands of seconds away,
And writing this, I spend my day.
By God's providence, we all will go,
Together, we will climb this plateau,
Deeper and deeper into greatness, we shall delve,
But for now, just wait, the class of oh-twelve.
[Hip hip hoorah!
Hip hip hoorah hoorah!]
Posted by: Keshav P on December 10, 2007
... Thursday...
... Friday comes after Thursday, does it not??...
... and then...!!!
(sorry for the suspense-building
I AM SOOOOOOOO NERVOUS! AGHHRRREEEHHHHGGG!!!
Posted by: Anon9 on December 10, 2007
Anyways, Good luck!
Posted by: Mike on December 10, 2007
Gah...5 days till decisions come out. In some ways, it really was better not knowing...then you didn't have a specific date to wait for. Anyone else feel like they're waiting for Christmas Day?
Posted by: Michael on December 10, 2007
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Posted by: 0 on December 10, 2007
God I hope I get it, I hope I get, How many people does he need?
Posted by: Chris B. on December 10, 2007
Posted by: Ry on December 10, 2007
Posted by: May on December 10, 2007
Console.WriteLine("Amazing-ness!");
else
Console.WriteLine("O_O");
Console.ReadLine();
Posted by: Pooja on December 10, 2007
NICE!
Posted by: Matt F on December 10, 2007
and I hope he needs ME.
Posted by: Anonymous on December 10, 2007
On another note, thanks a load, Omar and Anonymous
Now back to learning evolution, international finance, and paths of heat-seeking missiles.
Posted by: Keshav P on December 10, 2007
You may not get your MIT tube in the mail Saturday, but you will get your decision via the Internet -- which we all know is just a series of tubes!
Posted by: anonymous on December 10, 2007
Posted by: Keshav P on December 10, 2007
!!!!!
Posted by: Marie on December 10, 2007
Then I realized I'd be a wrestling tournament until like 4:00 PM. Then I realized, a guy on my team has an iPhone. Then I was very happy.
Good Luck to all of you, I hope to see yall all on freshmen orientation!
Posted by: Collin MacGregor on December 10, 2007
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous on December 10, 2007
Anyways, take it eeeaaassssyyy and don't stress too much, there will be plenty of time for that later on.
Posted by: Omar '10 on December 11, 2007
Posted by: ep on December 11, 2007
saving my common app till i hear from MIT.
Posted by: A'non Imus on December 11, 2007
good luck all
Posted by: Plan B on December 11, 2007
Good luck to everyone who applied!
Posted by: Hunter '11 on December 11, 2007
A = (10,000 / (15 - d))
Where d is the current date in December, 2007.
Posted by: Hawkins on December 11, 2007
Oh, btw, for those interested parties, decisions typically come out about 15 minutes prior to noon. This means on the west coast you should be checking around 8:45 am and on the east coast you should be checking around 11:45 am.
Good luck all, try to find the comment limit on this blog post!
Posted by: Snively on December 11, 2007
Thank You for working so hard over the past month for us applicants.
Thank You for changing our lives.
Best of luck to all applicant,
MIT is a dream we will achieve in six days, all together
Stephy.
Posted by: Stephy on December 11, 2007
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Posted by: Deusse on December 11, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 11, 2007
Hi Ben.I have a small problem.My application essay is 600 words long.Will the kind-hearted admission officers at MIT have the time to read an extra 100 words?
Posted by: Inshaf on December 11, 2007
I'm applying RD, so I can sit back and relax right now
Posted by: Star on December 11, 2007
Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
I know the voices dying with a dying fall
Beneath the music from a farther room.
So how should I presume?
Posted by: Hopeful '12 on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Edgar on December 11, 2007
yay for alliteration!!! Welcome to the party, snively!
Posted by: Keshav P on December 11, 2007
The UNIX timestamp for our decision date.
Good luck everyone. I'm super excited for this.
Posted by: Danny on December 11, 2007
- You have the grades, test scores, and ECs to warrant admission at MIT. Think of this as a really, really good (relatively speaking) lottery ticket - 1 in 10.
- Which would you prefer? MIT puts you out of your misery and turns you down? or defers you (like they do the majority of non-ED admits) to the Spring pool, thereby prolonging the anticipation/agony?
Posted by: White Tube on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Meghan on December 11, 2007
The suspense is killing me.
Posted by: Katelyn on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Nishanth on December 11, 2007
Admissions come out
Stronger than gravity
They pull me onward.
This is SO EXCITING!!
Posted by: Travis on December 11, 2007
Oh, and even though I thought knowing the decision date would mean I didn't check the blogs again, clearly I was wrong.
Posted by: AwayfromHome on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Anon on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Anon on December 11, 2007
...word
Posted by: A'non Imus on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Brittany on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Anonymous on December 11, 2007
So far no one from my school has been rejected from a school they applied to early. Dare I take this is a good sign?
Posted by: BB on December 11, 2007
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Posted by: Nick on December 11, 2007
I had a dream I was DENIED because I had too many Fs in English (even though I've never gotten a F in english)
Adrenaline can do weird things....
Posted by: 0 on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Christina on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Nick on December 11, 2007
http://www.mitadmissions.org/topics/misc/miscellaneous/some_cpw_thoughts.shtml
Matt had a dreamt about me, now that's weird.
Sorry Matt, lol
Posted by: Snively on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Snively on December 11, 2007
I think you'd rather have the dream and the acceptance than neither.
Posted by: Nick on December 11, 2007
O well...
an amazing birthday present or ....
Posted by: Anusha on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Amit on December 11, 2007
Regardless, thinking about it before Saturday has no bearing on what happens, so it's best not to think about it. Besides, the week will go more quickly that way, anyway. Despite the fact that it's basically impossible to do, it's worth a try, eh?
So, to begin the great process of diversion, I'm sure there's a lot of different types of people applying to MIT, so I wouldn't be surprised to hear quite a few languages on campus. So, any of you guys bilingual? Trilingual? Quadralingual? n-lingual, where n is large? (As for me, I speak French pretty fluently, but my Spanish is sadly rotting. Le sigh... err, suspiro...)
And on another diversion related note, if f(n) is defined as the probability that any given person is n-lingual, what kinda probability distribution do you think we'd have? (Here, I have no clue.)
There. Two topics to keep you busy. Now, GO!
Posted by: 0 on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Nick on December 11, 2007
f(n)=0 if n>the number of languages in existence.
Posted by: Nick on December 11, 2007
I don't know how many of you guys use facebook, but we should have a MIT COUNTDOWN group or something. There are two groups on FB for MIT 2012 (potential I think) but neither are super-active...
just a thought! ;D
Posted by: Jing Jing on December 11, 2007
Plaudits to Amit up there who runs a Linux box!
echo zomg! 3 days until decisions!
Posted by: ShenJing on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Taylor on December 11, 2007
I assumed that f(n) is defined as the probability of knowing at least n languages. The statistics on knowing exactly and only n languages would be different, but I disagree because the definition of a normal distribution is that it is a symmetrical distribution. The distribution, even assuming exactly n, would be right skewed because there is a hard limit at 1 and a limit at all and most people are closer to 1 but some are likely to be closer to all.
Posted by: Nick on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Twilight Bob on December 11, 2007
Posted by: R.A. Applicant on December 11, 2007
I guess we als have to define "language." Are we working off of interpretable information, or simply a method of communication between humans? If the former, n could very well be unbounded (at least for computation purposes; there's no such thing as infinite anything in reality anyway); if the latter, the upper bound of n would have to be around 4,000. Also, we have to figure out how to count the fuzzy little grey areas. Where would Esperanto go, and other conlangs? How about Klingon? Or, as another issue, if you speak French and German, you may be able to communicate with someone who speaks the Alsacien dialect. If you speak Polish, you may be able to communicate with someon who speaks Czech. Does that constitute partial knowledge of a language? (Perhaps, then, we should extend the domain of f to the rationals instead of only the positive integers.)
Anyway, most high school language classes also don't teach to a reasonable level of competency in the language. So, we're all probably most nearly monolingual around here--or, if we extend f to the rationals, perhaps we're 3/2-lingual
I'll still agree with f being right-skewed, since the number of people who are not monolingual will add some decimal points. Something like a mean of 1.3 versus a median of 1, for example. And f is surely asymptotic decreasing. But what I'm curious to know is, at what rate is f decreasing? i.e., what is it asymptotic to? Perhaps it's something closer to exponential, since you're going to be experiencing successively greater drop offs after each n. (I.e., significantly less people speak 2 languages than they do 1.)
Posted by: Will on December 11, 2007
Also, to R.A.Applicant, you need to send to evaluations, one from a Math/Science teacher and one from a Humanities/English/etc teacher...but I sent in three, because I couldn't choose between my Physics teacher and my Precalculus/Calculus3 teacher....So basically, you can submit two, even three, recommendations. ^__^
Posted by: Rutu on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Justin on December 11, 2007
I agree that the rate of decline would be an interesting project, but as of now I have no idea (exponential does sound like it could work). I think that it would be asymptotic to n=0 because I would find it hard to believe that someone knows all languages. I would define knowing a language as the ability to communicate with someone knowing only that language in a conversational manner. Languages like Klingon can be decided by the end user because I treated any language equally(this is why I said all rather than finding the number of languages spoken on Earth). This is all I would feel safe saying now (I applied 18 not 24):)
Posted by: Nick on December 11, 2007
I'd like to thank the admissions office for all their incredible work and for answering all our questions.
and wish everyone GOOD LUCK!!!!
4 more days everyone! i think we should all seize the time for a little indulgence and relaxation before one of the most anticipated moments of our college application process
Posted by: Lisa on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Rutu on December 11, 2007
TUBES!!! Boxes filled with tubes!
Posted by: Tracy '11 on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Rutu on December 11, 2007
I only know English fluently and have a good base in Spanish (I'm 1/2 mexican, w00t!) but as far as computer languages go I'm fluent in three, and have a good base in three more
that's 4 fluents! how many and which computer languages do you guys know?
Posted by: Matt F on December 11, 2007
Posted by: faerie007 on December 11, 2007
Posted by: faerie007 on December 11, 2007
Posted by: Saleen on December 11, 2007
they looked like they wanted to get out and spread the good news to you all though.
too bad you're all just going to sit there in front of your computer and hit refresh for hours on end and ruin the surprise.
Posted by: Tracy '11 on December 11, 2007
Posted by: M1CMD3R on December 11, 2007
Klingon is the made up language that the Klingon race speaks in Star Trek. Trekkies are noted for learning this language, which is about as ugly as a molerat. The languages you've listed are all apart of a big class of languages called "conlangs," which is short for "constructed languages." The most popular conlang is Esperanto, which was designed to become the global language. It has something like 1,000 native speakers in the world, and Esperanto is about as close as they come to being a real language. (If you want to haer it, they've got a podcast of it on iTunes; it sounds kind of like Romanian, or Italian with a Slavic flavor.) Too bad it never really took off...besides, English is the lingua franca of today anyway. (Ten bucks says Chinese is up next!)
@ Matt F
Hey, if you count anything that transmits information as a language, as long as there's an interpreter, it exists, right? The closest thing I know to a computer language is LaTeX, which owns my life because of its awesomeness. Down with Microsoft Word!
Posted by: Will on December 11, 2007
@Matt:
I used to take Spanish, but became disillusioned with it after 4 years, and don't remember much of the vocabulary anymore. As for programming languages, I'm relatively fluent in Basic and Scheme, and can sort of bull my way through C, C++, Python, CNC, HTML, and BASH and Batch scripting, and I'll hopefully be relatively fluent in Java and Lisp by next fall (if I'm not, I'll probably have some problems in AI ;D)
So that leaves 3 fluents total.
@Saleen: Granted, I'm a hopeful too, but I never took AP Calc; I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to take Calc 1 at a local college my sophomore year. That being said, I know another guy applying who took Calc 1 in 8th grade, and there's currently and 8th grader in my multivariable
Posted by: bunny on December 11, 2007
that when you spend
hours 'pon hours
and hours on end
staring at blogposts
and wond'ring what to say,
when staring at french homework's
what you should be doing today,
you're obsessed, you're panicked,
you're more than impatient,
better stop your staring now,
or your brain will take a huge dent
and you'll go craaaaaaaaazy.................
(if you haven't already, of course ^__^)
~*~
Okay, so that was the most horrible and most forced rhyming poem I've ever written, but I think it fits the mood.......hehe, must go do French homework now.....^__^
Posted by: Rutu on December 11, 2007
To everyone who is perusing this forum... in lieu of homework, good luck. I hope that MIT truly picks the best possible applicants for the spots. How in the world they do it amongst all of the extraordinarily qualified applicants is beyond me. Don't forget to sing everyone's favorite carol ("I'm dreaming of a tubing Christmas") before attempting to crash the MIT servers on Saturday, just for luck, and of course, remember that as much as we all would like to get into MIT, it is only one institution out of many. On that note I will end with a rather humorous letter from someone who understood the "E Pluribus Unum" concept quite well: http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/hell/Bestof/mit-letter.html
Good Luck everyone!
Posted by: Harrangatang on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Trent on December 12, 2007
@Saleen, bunny - Just to add, I took BC Calc as a freshman. However, throughout high school I have had a real passion for number theory, and that's ultimately the field of math I'd want to go into. So, I would agree it probably doesn't really matter if or when you've taken calculus, but I think having some experience with math outside of the traditional course sequence of high school will be viewed favorably by admissions (or at least that's what I'm hoping)
Posted by: Zev on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Twilight Bob on December 12, 2007
Posted by: zizou on December 12, 2007
Next Lyric. (modified)
MIT what you want is right in front of you, what you want, what you want, what you want is right in front of you!
Posted by: Chris B. on December 12, 2007
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071211/ap_on_re_us/word_of_the_year
w00t!
Posted by: Anon on December 12, 2007
I would guess they have the list already, no? Don't they have to print letters and insert them into the tubes?
Posted by: 0 on December 12, 2007
Posted by: A'non Imus on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Meghan on December 12, 2007
Posted by: White Tube on December 12, 2007
Wooo, LaTeX! Glad I'm not the only one
And, since you're the first math person I've encountered on here, tell me more! You said number theory, but anything more specific than that? Are you a big combinatorics person in general? I can't do that stuff at all, haha. Number theory and I don't get along very well, though I've been trying to make amends with it lately. Ever tried Putnam problems? Whole new level of pain...
@ Saleen
I taught myself calc as a freshman; it's too bad they didn't let anyone take anything before "you're supposed to." It was probably good for me, though, in retrospect.
Posted by: Will on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Brittany on December 12, 2007
Posted by: OmarA on December 12, 2007
Every creature was praying, even my pet mouse;
The tubes will be stuffed at MIT with care,
In hopes that on Saturday the mailman will be there;
Each evening I think of MIT while lying on my bed,
Last night I dreamt the Stata Center dropped melting snow on my head;
And mamma in her PJ’s, and I in my MIT cap,
Will now settled down for a much needed nap,
"Now, Matt! now, Ben! now, Bryan and Stu!
And there’s more, for which a break is overdue!
And congrats to Melis, you’re an inspiration to me!
Now enjoy Oxford, and be all you can be!"
Shortly it will be Saturday, 12 PM;
Time to Log-in, and the waiting will end.
But before I do this, I just want to say,
Good luck to all, and to all a great decision-day.
Posted by: Chris T. on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Twilight Bob on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Travis on December 12, 2007
the gruesome wait continues...
Posted by: Plan A on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Twilight Bob on December 12, 2007
Posted by: I really hope I get in on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Jing Jing on December 12, 2007
http://hs.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9135235604
Ummm, if the link doesn't work, try searching "MIT COUNTDOWN"....
Now, time to go crazy again....
*runs around room*
PS: I lost the game..... ^__^
Posted by: Rutu on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Jing Jing on December 12, 2007
Posted by: John on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Xaq on December 12, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Taylor on December 12, 2007
If you really like MIT and you think they'll like you as a person, you should definitely apply. If you match, your SAT scores won't hinder the decision to accept you.
I'm merely speaking from the point of view of an applicant, however, so if you choose you can just ignore this msg. Seriously though, I don't think obsessing over SAT scores only will lead to anything fruitful. Just apply and see what happens!
Posted by: Jing Jing on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Rebecca from Seattle~~ on December 12, 2007
Gah, I'm so excited that I keep coming on here/making facebook groups/making countdowns......I can't get myself to study for my AP physics test tomorrow that my teacher has said will probably be the hardest test we've ever taken......
Posted by: Rutu on December 12, 2007
Posted by: jandro on December 12, 2007
Posted by: jandro on December 12, 2007
Posted by: JOHN on December 12, 2007
I WISH EVERYONE THE VERY BEST OF LUCK!!! Just remember that whatever happens happens and whether you're accepted or deferred, your decision was meant to be. Everything will all work out for the best.
Well, at least that's what I've kept repeating to myself...
Posted by: Rachael on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Harrangatang on December 12, 2007
Posted by: Anxious on December 12, 2007
Well said, Harrangatang. That pretty much covered it, but I will add my two cents as well. SAT scores are just a vague indication of whether or not you can handle MIT. (I'm sure that either Ben or Matt said that almost word for word, but I can't find any exact quote.) I think (whoever said this) also said that the reason why MIT's average scores are so high is that passion for math/science/learning (which MIT cares about more) usually (but not always) translates into high SAT scores. In other words, you should try your best, but if you don't get insanely high scores, it shouldn't hurt. (I'm not trying to downplay SAT scores, but I'm just saying they won't make you automatically accepted or rejected by themselves.)
Oh, but I would like to say something about the whole "Getting a 1600 will hurt your score" sentiment. Unless it's all sarcasm (which I'm sometimes horrible at detecting), MIT really doesn't care about the exact score from around 700 up, as Harrangatang said. The only time a 1600 (perhaps y'all mean 2400?) will hurt you is if you overemphasize it and act pompous, like "Hey, grant me admission because I got perfect SAT's!" I think MIT is very suspicious of those types of people. But if you are passionate/talented about something, and also just happen to get a 2400, that won't hurt you. It just won't give you an immense advantage, like many erroneously think.
ANYWAYS...guess what's more fun than the SAT and its associated scores? Coding! Yes, I am among the legions of coding monkeys applying (though I'm RD), and I AM PROUD OF IT!
@Matt F
I'd like to note that "how many computer languages we know" doesn't really take into account the various frameworks for certain operating systems and such. I know this doesn't exist for certain languages like Java and all the scripting languages, but, for example, what if someone knew C++ using the standard C libary and using MFC, Carbon (for Macs), etc., but not using STL? How would that work out? (I mean, learning some of these frameworks is almost like learning a whole new language itself!)
Or are you just referring to just the core language syntax, in which my point is moot?
If the latter's the case (which would be so much easier =D), I'm fluent in C, C++, Objective-C, Java, HTML, PHP, and...I've dabbled in SQL and Unix shell scripting. Never tried assembly though. ARGH, IT IS DIFFICULT.
Good luck EA applicants! And once you guys get in, hope the best for us RD applicants!
Posted by: asm on December 12, 2007
And I also forgot to add how many spoken languages I am fluent in. Sadly, I'd say it's about 1.25-1.3 right about now.
Posted by: asm on December 13, 2007
hope to see you next year!
Posted by: enewts on December 13, 2007
how do I love thee?
let me sum the ways...
my love is the limit of y=x, or any linear equation,
(or the lim of sin(x)/x for those of binary persuasion),
and though perhaps rash, and albeit uncouth,
I'll feel that I know you, to tell you the truth
now my rhyme be too simple, my meter a bore,
but it fills the time waiting for a tube at my door!
I bid all farewell and hope for the best,
for all EA's, RD's and all of the rest,
(and rhymezone, for help with this poem as well
without you my post wouldn't be nearly as swell!)
So to all who've read (with a smile or groan)
I say to thee a fond "adieu",
the night moon rises and once again falls,
but I've still economics to do!
~end~
well that was a fun distraction. never have Frost's words rang so true, I've miles to go before I sleep....
Posted by: 0 on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Anonymous on December 13, 2007
I sent my sat scores to MIT a month ago! For some reason my sat 1 scores were sent but not my sat 2 results (for every other university I applied to both results got there)..so I sent them again 15 days ago!..my sat 2 results are still not here and its all over for me now..do i still have a chance of being accepted into MIT without my sat 2 scores ?(if I'm lucky they mite just get here hours before the decision..:()
Posted by: Ali G on December 13, 2007
Both of my scores have been sent successfully but only my sat 1 has been PROCESSED by MIT...err..is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Posted by: Ali G on December 13, 2007
49 hours, 14 minutes to go!
Posted by: anon on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Chris B on December 13, 2007
I asked 4 of my teachers whom I have known for quite some time to send a letter of recommendation (and yes, I gave them the PDF to fill out and everything). Although I completed everything within my power way before the deadline, I waited and waited for Evaluation B to show as received in MyMIT. Finally, it has shown up sometime between the last time I checked and now. I just am hoping that the incompetence of my teachers hasn't put me in a bad position.
Any ideas as to whether or not this will affect my application?
Posted by: Daniel Fowler on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Dustin on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Brittany on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Xaq on December 13, 2007
lol, who am i kidding?
the sooner the better!
Posted by: kevin on December 13, 2007
Posted by: judi on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Couldn't Care Less on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Rutu on December 13, 2007
"MIT DECISIONS IS A SERIES OF TUBES!"
HAHAHAHAHA I laughed for a solid minute at that
Posted by: Matt F on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Anon on December 13, 2007
TWO MORE DAYS!
GOOD LUCK!!!
Posted by: 'TogaInvenTeam on December 13, 2007
Yeah, well, the letter comes in a tube (I think). Wouldn't it be awkward if I ran home going, MOM!!! DAD!! I GOT MY TUBE!!!
parents: *sweatdrop*
Posted by: 0 on December 13, 2007
Posted by: A'non Imus on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Jermaine on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Jermaine on December 13, 2007
#include (iostream)
using namespace std;
int main()
{
int const NUMACC = 400;
int studNum [8];
for(int x = 1; x (= NUMACC, x++)
{
cout (( "Please enter the new student";
cout (( "numbers";
cout (( "of those accepted during EA.";
cin )) studNum[x];
}
for(int x = 1; x (= NUMACC, x++)
{
do
{
cout (( "Would you like to go to MIT?";
cin )) Just say yes;
cout (( "Congratulations! Your student";
cout (( "number";
cout (( "is" < studNum[x] << endl;
}while (user == sane || user == cool);
return 0;
}
Posted by: Eric Hopeful '12 on December 13, 2007
Posted by: The Guy Above on December 13, 2007
Only a day and a half left to go, people! Good luck!
Posted by: Sheir on December 13, 2007
Posted by: John Mensah on December 13, 2007
Depends. What is your score distribution. I know a girl who got into Princeton with a 1800 and few AP passing scores.
Posted by: Jermaine on December 13, 2007
university of chicago just released their EA decisions eventhough they said they were gonna release this Saturday.
maybe MIT will do the same? i'm checking like every 5 seconds
Posted by: anonymous on December 13, 2007
41 HOURS, 4 MINUTES!
good luck everyone!!
btw i also had a HUGE AP Physics test today. i was freaking out about admissions yesterday so much that i wasnt even really able to study =,[
life will be so much better once the anxiety of waiting is over!
i find myself in school looking at the clock and counting down the hours. it's gotten pretty bad...
Posted by: Plan A on December 13, 2007
First one (monday), I got flat out rejected. It was one of the most depressing dreams ever. Second one (tuesday), I got deferred. It was kind of sad, but expected. Then I got rejected at the regular decision and then I was pretty disconsolate. But then in the third one (last night) I got in EA and it was possibly the best dream ever.
Basically, all I'm saying is that MIT IS TAKING OVER MY LIFE I WANT TO SKIP FRIDAY
Posted by: Aaron on December 13, 2007
But I am itching to find out.
Posted by: Relax on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Jermaine on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Jermaine on December 13, 2007
Posted by: JOHN on December 13, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 13, 2007
I'd say that pure number theory is where my strongest interest lies, though I don't really have a preference yet as far as analytic vs. algebraic goes. And yes, I also definitely like the interplay between combinatorics and number theory - binomial coefficients (and their generalizations), recurrence sequences, generating functions, etc. are all pretty interesting. In fact, I've been considering a way of using WZ theory's awesome combinatorial power to shed some light on the number theory side of things.
Gah! Putnam problems are insane. I solved one on my own once - that was such a proud moment for me... haha.
You're also the first math person I've found. They're so many areas to choose from - what do you like to study? As far as math topics that I don't get along with, statistics and diff eqs probably top my list. Would you want to go into math as a career (that's my plan, at least for now)?
BTW, I don’t know if you’ve seen it, but I highly recommend Knuth’s Concrete Mathematics. This book is just another reason why he’s so awesome!
Posted by: Zev on December 13, 2007
Why didn't you take the ACT. I found that I liked the format of the ACT much more appealling than the SAT. The ACT was actually administered in a classroom, our natural domain where we are used to taking exams.
Posted by: Jermaine on December 13, 2007
In the beginning of the week, I had a dream that I got accepted to MIT early. Sweet. Only problem is that I had a dream the week before SAT scores that I got a 413 on one of the sections and I got much higher than that. The bummer is that I seem to dream in reverse psychology or something. Then, the night after the acceptance dream, I had two (Yes, TWO!!) dreams that I was deferred. Understandably, I don't know what to expect, especially since I haven't dreamt about denial yet...hope that doesn't mean anything...
Posted by: Ry on December 13, 2007
You're SATs aren't offered in a classroom? I'm from a small town in PA so I guess I can't comprehend where else they would offer a test. Anyway, I'll agree to the ACT being a much easier test (at least with regards to its format [plus there's science!]). Good luck to everyone on Saturday (I know I'm counting down the seconds).
Posted by: Matt L. on December 13, 2007
Freshman grades are considered. However, if you've made, as you say, "a tremendous improvement," they will definitely take that into account. I'm sure colleges - especially MIT, which focuses so much on the importance and joy of learning and improving - will greatly appreciate improvement.
@Plan A
Hehe, I was in the middle of my AP Physics Torque and Rotational Motion test - the one my teacher said would be the hardest test any of us have ever taken - and I just randomly started thinking about Saturday and this blogpost and wasted a few minutes until I d'''(position)ed my mind back into physics....The test actually wasn't that hard....dunno what he was talking about.....but oh well......
1 Day, 3 hours, 10 minutes, 25 seconds.......
Posted by: Rutu on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Eric on December 13, 2007
"Did you get in? YES, NO, MAYBE SO!!"
[And then there would be a crazy moment of havoc before the real results (because we still want them) showed up.]
Not giving anyone ideas, of course.
Correction: I would PANIC in that crazy moment of havoc BEFORE laughing so hard...
BEST OF LUCK TO ALL!
PS
Dreams, ahhh -- reality + illusion ... = reallusion? (aka, dream)
I had two of them too, relating to MIT and EA, but am slightly afraid (*completely terrified*) to share them...
Again (how did this post get hella long?), BEST OF LUCK TO EVERYONE! EA and RA
PPS
Thursday, nearly over...
Posted by: Anon9 on December 13, 2007
I can't wait for RESULTS!!!!!
At the same time, I don't want to know!!!
I swear, my parents will kill me if I don't get in...O_____O
and my sis is like...o.O i'll be waiting for you there (she's an undergrad freshmen there)....
AAAAAAAIIIIIIYYYYYYYYAAAAAA!!!!!!!
>____O
>___O
>__O
>_O
>.O
O>
oh snap...........
Posted by: Aleo on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Eric on December 13, 2007
Wow this chain of replies just keeps growin'...! =)
Posted by: Jing Jing on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Leko on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Cynthia Li on December 13, 2007
Posted by: JP on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Rutu on December 13, 2007
Posted by: Anon9 on December 13, 2007
I've done math science fairs, too. The last project I did (11th) was on finding an orthonormal basis for a function space over a Hilbert space whose unit sphere is parameterized by a set of functions in the function space. It may sound "omg wtf," but it was really pretty dinky in the end, methinks. (Don't you just LOVE the interplay between math and self-esteem? That's the problem with it: there's always more to know...) And not only that, but I hadn't seen the generalization of Fourier transforms to groups, so...there was already an adequately abstract version of what I was doing. So, oops. What, specifically, did you do on multinomial coefficients? (Use LaTeX liberally if req'd :D) I don't know much about binomial coefficients outside a few applications to analysis topics in a few spots... And, you lost me at WZ
Anyway, I haven't really decided on a definitive field yet for study. I like functional analysis--especially tranforms, and how they roll--but there's just so much in the form of prerequisites that it's hard to read straight through a text and get it all and its full implications. So, I'm still in a dabbling stage. One area I'd like to get more into is topology, though point-set is just so dry, it seems. And stats is pretty lame, but have you tried studying stochastic processes? It makes stats/diffeq really worthwhile in the end.
YOU SOLVED A PUTNAM ON YOUR LONESOME?! ((bows down to the chosen one)) I think usually I just look at them, and then...stop.
And I'm pretty much set on math as a career, or at least something very heavily math related. Either that, or maybe something involving linguistics and math. I dont knoooooow :(
And no, haven't heard of the book, but I'll go dig it up from somewhere, pronto.
Posted by: Will on December 13, 2007
Posted by: cng on December 13, 2007
~Another Tool loving Eric, lets room together
Posted by: Eric2 on December 14, 2007
@Will
I'm pretty sure it was a fluke - I don't remember the problem exactly, but I do remember I had just learned some trick that helped, and even with that trick it took like 2 weeks of giving up and coming back to it. I guess it must have just been like the easiest one they ever made or something like that, because I definitely haven't come close to solving any others. I mean, I usually make plenty of dumb mistakes on the AIME, so as far as competition math goes, I'm not Putnam material
I enjoy the USAMTS the most out of all the competitions I've done - its proof-oriented, not just the answer, and you get to spend ACTUAL TIME on the problems.
For my project on multinomial coefficients, it was pretty straightforward (this was in 8th grade). It was just showing how all your basic b.c. identities could be generalized to m.c. identities, and that you could interpret m.c.s as being in a Pascal n-dimensional pyramid just like b.c.s are in Pascal’s triangle. That was also when I started looking into recurrence sequences, because you can find Fibonacci numbers along sums of certain diagonals of Pascal’s triangle, so I also showed you could get order n recurrence sequences along “diagonals” (i.e., hyperplanes) of Pascal n-D pyramids. So, nothing fancy, but it was a good starting point that got me interested in a lot of other stuff. (I came up with the idea for Pascal n-D pyramids entirely on my own, but then when I started researching I found out people had already thought of that. Bummer.)
And I agree with your comment about math and self-esteem – for each of my math projects, all of my friends in school were totally awestruck at all the symbols and drawings and stuff, but its hard to explain to the mathematically uninitiated that “this isn’t amazing at all, there’s so much more out there that’s way beyond this that I don’t even have a clue about”, you know what I mean? I liked your word choice with “dinky” – all of my work has been dinky so far, but it just looks and sounds complicated to the casual observer. Hopefully, I’m not a dilettante – I’d like to think I actually know SOMETHING, but I’m often not sure.
WZ theory is basically an automatic proof method for a very, very general class of statements – if you’ve got a sum of binomial coefficients, powers, factorials, etc., or any combinations (haha) of them, then the WZ method will find the closed form for the sum if there is one, and prove that its correct! I suppose a more technical term is “an indefinite summation algorithm for hypergeometric series”. So, my (very vague) idea is to say, “Let’s take every expression that occurs in a WZ-created identity mod p” or some other such thing. We know a lot of properties of binomial coefficients and powers mod p, so maybe this new statement is still interesting. That’s it at this point, I guess – haven’t made any actual progress past the concept stage yet.
On the AOPS classrooms and forums you can embed LaTeX right along with everything else, but I don’t know if that’s possible here.
Also, I also don’t know anything about function spaces or functional analysis, and have only the faintest grasp of the concept of a Fourier transform, so itd be great if you could explain what you can (I might not understand anyway though)
On one last final note to this monster post, I’ll add something else I’ve been researching in number theory for quite some time. I’ve been trying to generalize this, and related, statements:
(Wieferich 1909) If 2^(p-1) not= 1 mod p^2, then the prime p cannot be the exponent in a counterexample to the first case of Fermat’s Last Theorem.
To demonstrate the sheer awesomeness – try 7.
2^6 = 15 not= 1 mod 49
so we have just proved FLT for the exponent 7, based on Wieferich’s Criterion.
Posted by: Zev on December 14, 2007
(hmmm... someone's post must have been deleted??
I could have sworn that I hit 300 before...)
Posted by: Anon9 on December 14, 2007
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Posted by: Chi F. on December 14, 2007
Oh, and...30 hours 28 minutes to go!
Posted by: Xaq on December 14, 2007
Kinda dumb.. but hey, it allows me to only have to stress about this!
28 hours 1 minute to go!
Posted by: Meghan on December 14, 2007
What else is there to say...........
Posted by: Brittany on December 14, 2007
Posted by: Derek S. on December 14, 2007
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Posted by: White Tube on December 14, 2007
The levels for these classification defer from college to college.
Very bright students:
There is no luck needed for those to get into MIT who already have credentials that surpass MIT expectations. Luck is very much needed to hope these people come out of MIT with compassion, humble to others, become great visionaries, should make tons of money because you deserve it after you gone through MIT grinding, BUT willing to sacrifice for the best causes of Humanity, GOD already has given tremondous strength to you and guide the rest of the student types wherever you come across either in college, work or in life.
Borderline students:
You need lots of luck. Most of the people will fall under this category, given a chance, with hard work they can become very successful.
Rest of the people:
Admissions staff write feel good factors and that over generalizes things and make everyone to apply to MIT and unfortunately raises unrealistic expectations in them. One positive note about this section of the crowd is you are passionated to apply to MIT or any other premiere colleges, few can get in only if you come from a family background with lots of hardships, no resources, but not for the families that are with resources. But you can become very bright student joining other colleges and try for graduate degree @MIT or other top colleges if you keep your passion and burning desire.
Soceity needs all three types of student pool, and if all become great visionaries, who will do the front line work:-).
I feel younger when I read these blogs and inspires me to do my BEST.
Good luck and Best wishes to all in making best choices in life.
btw, I am a proud parent of one of the applicants who I think will fall under "borderline" category.
Posted by: visakh on December 14, 2007
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Posted by: Stephanie on December 14, 2007
I completely disagree with your first classification of "very bright" students. The way my EC explained it to me was: There are two things that need to happen in order to be granted admission to MIT. First, you need to be qualified. This includes test scores, activities, GPA, essay, etc. Second, you need to win the lottery. He explained to me that about 60% of applicants are qualified, but, as you probably know, only about 12% will be granted admissions, because of space limitations.
For most of us who apply, the hard part, the part we can't control, is winning the lottery.
Posted by: Marc on December 14, 2007
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Posted by: Travis on December 14, 2007
I'm in Central Florida too! And extremely bitter about the mid-January date for finals. Not that I don't want homework over Christmas break...ha.
less than 20 hours!
Posted by: Rachel on December 14, 2007
Posted by: JOHN on December 14, 2007
MIT is a dream, the dream for all of us.
I believe in you, I believe in myself.
To those of you hwo believes, I will meet you at MIT.
Posted by: Stephy on December 14, 2007
the end.
Posted by: anonymous on December 14, 2007
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Posted by: Meng! on December 14, 2007
At least I know that no matter which decision I see tomorrow, I'll have someone to celebrate and/or mourn with!
Posted by: Liz on December 14, 2007
Posted by: Matt F on December 14, 2007
I wish all of you guys good luck!! And I look forward to meeting you guys next year!!
Posted by: Cora on December 14, 2007
http://members.tripod.com/~TechBabe/places.html
Good luck to you all.
Posted by: MIT'11Dad on December 14, 2007
and thank you Cora! that was very helpful =]
Posted by: Plan A on December 14, 2007
I'm beginning to think that homework is the bane of my existence. Life would be so much more interesting without it! But I suppose if I DO get in to MIT (Or any even half way decent college, really).. I'm going to have to start looking at it more positively.
However, yay for Florida and 80 degree weather.
I @ Rachel
I'm beginning to think that homework is the bane of my existence. Life would be so much more interesting without it! But I suppose if I DO get in to MIT (Or any even half way decent college, really).. I'm going to have to start looking at it more positively.
However, yay for Florida and 80 degree weather.
I <3 MIT.. and I hope all of us on here get in, even though I know that's not very likely. I wish everybody the best of luck.
Posted by: Meghan on December 14, 2007
(Sorry for double post, it cut me off for some reason the 1st time..)
Posted by: Meghan on December 14, 2007
On that note, I want to take a poll/opinion/thingy....If we get in/deferred/refused, should we come celebrate/bemoan/cry here, or should we not, to be considerate of others who haven't been as fortunate/normal-luck/unfortunate? I mean, I have no problem with people celebrating their entrance around me even if I don't get in, but I just want to make sure about everyone.......thankies ^__^.
Posted by: Rutu on December 14, 2007
No my SAT was in a big multi-purpose room. It was Saturday and there was no heater. It was soo cold I couldn't concentrate.
Posted by: Jermaine on December 14, 2007
Seriously, best wishes to everyone and happy holidays.
-KMAX
Posted by: Kevin R. MIT '11 on December 14, 2007
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Posted by: José C on December 14, 2007
Having seen how this worked last year, I'd like to say that if for some reason you are deferred, do not give up hope. Last year, my daughter was the only student at her high-powered Silicon Valley high school to be accepted by MIT. Many of her friends applied to MIT and were deferred and eventually rejected. Two of them are now quite happy at Harvard, and others are quite happy at places like Princeton, Berkeley, Yale, Penn, Cornell, Duke, and the University of Chicago, etc. An earlier poster --Mark, I think-- pointed out that some of this was like a lottery. That's true. For those of you who don't receive the news you want tomorrow, please try to keep this perspective. It won't be easy, I admit. I'd also advise parents to keep this perspective.
Best of luck and good wishes to all.
Posted by: MIT Parent on December 14, 2007
Posted by: Natasha on December 14, 2007
I'm worried that a suspension for a stupid mistake might keep me out of MIT period. Just how much would that be a factor anyway?
Posted by: J'aime les Hawaiennes on December 14, 2007
i would like (..actually love!) to have a tube with a memorable, precious letter inside. i think i have been a good enough girl this year, so please do not give me coals. If santa is too busy with the other presents, I would not mind patiently waiting for it to come 3 months later in a different packaging. thank you!
Yours Sincerely,
hopeful applicant for 2012.
=^__^= so excited...
Posted by: hopeful on December 14, 2007
As the time remaining for MIT responses approaches 0(13.5 hours to go), the coherence of posts in this forum also approaches 0.
1. "This is indubitably going to be the most stressful week of my high school career" (5 days to go)
2. "aq;ksljdfa;ksldjfhlkajsdf
the end." (16 hours to go)
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Posted by: Xaq on December 14, 2007
AH
i hope they like me for being young.
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http://snively.blogspot.com/2006/12/tube.html
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: archimedes on December 15, 2007
"You empty the tube out and it's like a small party!"
Classic.
Thanks!
Posted by: archimedes on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
thanks for asking what the tube look like because until you asked i had some fanciful tube like structure floating in my mind and when you said "like a tube for pills" i realized that not all tubes are like the fanciful ones in my mind, so i had to google it to find out what it really looke like. i'm glad to know that they're closer to fanciful with their confetti contents and such than that pill-like tube...
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
baratsandbereta.com->Videos
I chose a quote from "The Office," but that's just me.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Cynthia Li on December 15, 2007
But it matters not. Watch your back MIT Admissions. I shall have my revenge. With my new friends at Caltech, who almost know what they're doing, I shall crush any hopes of a future for MIT. At last you shall feel my pent up wrath...in the form of my stereotypical doomsday device: The [CLEARANCE REQUIRED] 3000!
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Dear MIT prospectives. Could you please fix the above letter for me? I'm not a very good writer. In fact, my only skill seems to be setting elaborate ways to take over the world, most of which focus on first exacting my revenge on MIT Admissions.
Posted by: I. R. Evil. on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Cynthia Li on December 15, 2007
Thanks for posting the info about Maxwell Dorion valedictorian. Lot of nerdiness there, but I'm not sure any of it's senior quote material. I enjoyed it nonetheless. What "Office" quote did you end up going with?
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
i should just go to sleep so the time would go by faster.
Posted by: Amanda on December 15, 2007
i should just go to sleep so the time would go by faster.
Posted by: Amanda on December 15, 2007
2012 is MIT's most competitive year, in terms of admissions. 2011 was in its time, but there has been a trend of increasing competitiveness (which will probably peak sometime soon) over the last few years. There are three possibilities of what will happen to you:
1: You get in Early!
Awesome! You got a way-cool tube! Um, I really don't need to say more except: start planning to come to CPW! (more on that later). MIT is such an awesome place...and you'll get a much better education than you would get from say, that other place down the street, or that pesky other "institution" over in Pasadena.
2: You got Deferred
This is your chance to make your application even more awesome than ever! I'm surrounded (dorm-wise) by people who are exceptionally well qualified (i.e. make me wonder how I got in), who were deferred and were accepted through regular decision. Most people at MIT get in through Regular Decision, and trust me -- they are all uber-awesome.
3: You go north
You get pwnd by a grue.
(sorry, the xkcd reference was mandatory. http://xkcd.com/91/ ).
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And no, we're not crazy here at MIT. It's just finals week next week, and we'll do anything we can to punt (not study).
Posted by: I. B. Good on December 15, 2007
I went to bed at 5:00 PM hoping I wouldn't wake up til after 12 PM today... well, clearly that didn't work. I'm not sure what I was thinking because now not only do I have over 11 hours to wait but sleep definitely isn't happening tonight.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Perhaps you could exact revenge on Admissions by hacking into their system and releasing decision RIGHT NOW!
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Perhaps you could exact revenge on Admissions by hacking into their system and releasing decisions RIGHT NOW!
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Good luck tomorrow (or today, depending on where you are) with the admissions decisions, everyone!
Posted by: phycodorus eques on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
"It's gotta rhyme with piece. Fancy Feast! Break me off a piece of that Fancy Feast. Cat food. Nailed it."
by Andy Bernard: "Local Ad" episode
So basically, if you're ever wrong about something, just go through with it and act cool instead of acting lame. Maybe someone will be comforted by the humor.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: archimedes on December 15, 2007
I'll consider that quote...
I was thinking more something along the lines of Feynman's "Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it," but "appropriate".
Posted by: SpyroGyra on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Zyloch on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
As you may have read already, I made the mistake of thinking I could sleep 17 hours from 5 PM yesterday til past noon today...
Since it's a bit late to utilize your advice, any other suggestions? Anyone?
Posted by: SpyroGyra on December 15, 2007
Nope, you're screwed =P. You could pass the time by listening to some of my music!
My guess is that you probably won't sleep at all tonight, haha. Good luck trying anyway.
And good luck to everyone else tomorrow at noon!
Posted by: Danny ('12?) on December 15, 2007
Ouch, I have had that problem several times. It seems like your circadian sleep cycle has fallen on a bad day.
Before I reap the fruits of my labor (staying up so late), you should try the usual outlets: Youtube, Facebook, Wikipedia, and games. In particular, I have found Bubble Trouble, Rush Hour, N-game, and Slime Volleyball to be good diversions, or you can always try the Kitten Cannon game (I'm sure you know most of these already!)
Anyway, do something fun!
Posted by: Zyloch on December 15, 2007
Posted by: A'non Imus on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Harrangatang on December 15, 2007
A really good time waster is Funny Farm: http://shygypsy.com/farm/p.cgi
If you can finish it before replies come out, I think your intelligence will transcend any MIT decision and change it to accepted
Good luck everyone! Only 10 more hours of sweating left...
Posted by: Harrangatang on December 15, 2007
It's a great game
Posted by: Zyloch on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Michael McCanna on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Zyloch on December 15, 2007
Now my life is so different. That's one of the great things about college in general (assuming you don't still live at home).
I LOVE MIT!
Posted by: Michael McCanna on December 15, 2007
I really enjoy your music! A LOT! Love it, in fact.
Oh, and you couldn't be more right about me being screwed. I've been practically stalking this blog for 3 hours.
Posted by: SpyroGyra on December 15, 2007
Oh my goodness! You reminded me of all the time-passing tactics that I used back in middle school during a study hour (minus facebook because I didn't have one back in the day...) But slime volleyball! I'd totally forgotten about that.
Posted by: SpyroGyra on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Zyloch on December 15, 2007
Outside the Sun is shining
Seems like Heaven ain't far away
It's good to have you with us
Even if it's just for the day.
-the killers, who, ironically, have been keeping me alive the past few hours.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Sid on December 15, 2007
When RD comes (it's on Pi Day, isn't it?), I'll probably be staying up late coding some elaborate app to make my computer make loud noises when the decision is released and then automatically display the decision letter.
...
DUDE, I am so totally gonna make that! =D
Posted by: asm on December 15, 2007
In my previous post, I was referring to Zyloch's post like 15 posts before. Maybe it's just me, but I could've sworn it was only three or four posts back when I was posting it.
Posted by: asm on December 15, 2007
whitehatdesign.com/chat
spread the word; choose a screen name and there u go....
Posted by: anion on December 15, 2007
http://whitehatdesign.com/chat/
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Posted by: Plan b on December 15, 2007
Guess staying up late didn't work out so well for me, hope it goes better for ya'll.
Now off to the gym to tame my angst.
Posted by: Meghan on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Laser on December 15, 2007
Only a couple more hours!
Posted by: Doris on December 15, 2007
Our school has it a little easier than that, lol. Seniors (and juniors...argh) get out of any semester test if they have an A in the class for that semester, and seniors get out of semesters if they meet or exceed on said subject in the PSAE (ACT stuff). If you meet or exceed in all subjects (math, science, reading comprehension, and english) you are automatically exempt from all semesters all year. Good stuff, eh? lol
Posted by: Xaq on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Xaq on December 15, 2007
Major
Interim
Torture
But we all love it anyway. *sigh*
~2 hours?
Posted by: Shubhster on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
I'm in central FL too
Posted by: Shamarah on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Harrangatang on December 15, 2007
No luck yet. =P
Posted by: … on December 15, 2007
ONE hour, SEVENTEEN minutes, THIRTY seconds.........
Posted by: Rutu on December 15, 2007
well, funny farm will keep me distracted that long. possibly longer. (one more window to open!)
mm. my teacher have the option of letting seniors out for 2nd semester exams if they have an A. the nice ones do, but some make you take it regardless.
A note to the MIT gods: PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE SEND ME A TUBE!! (and I'll love you forever)
Posted by: Rachel on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Karl on December 15, 2007
Wait through passing minutes,
Passing seconds…
And wonder why the Gods made time so slow.
But as we wander and meander
Onto the page of holy decisions,
Words there are that I must say:
To all those demigods
Enthroned in Admissions,
A golden thank you
From the center of the heart.
Thou, who have seen
Our lives in words,
Thou, who have spent sleepless nights
Delving into our souls,
Thou, who gave up three fortnights and more
To brighten mid-December for a gaggle of hopes,
To thee I bow forever and more.
Thank you…
To those like me,
Enthroned in Hopes,
Good fortune to all,
May every hope come true.
Till time of truth doth come
And we gather to rejoice and rue,
I count 60 minutes
And bid thee all adieu.
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Posted by: Stephanie on December 15, 2007
This would be a really great time to write acceptance/rejection switch statement...
And yes, Matt F, I take a C# class. The universities in my state told my school not to teach us Java. Even though...basically all my other friends who take comp. sci in my state tell me they're learning Java. ???
Does anyone here play the Game with the fifteen minute grace period? We did at my Humanities camp, but we don't at my Math-Technology school.
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
http://whitehatdesign.com/chat/
16 applicants online as of now...
Posted by: anion on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
18 minutes!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Lizz on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
Anyone else feel like vomiting?
Posted by: David on December 15, 2007
Posted by: anon on December 15, 2007
XD
Posted by: DetroitMan on December 15, 2007
Posted by: 0 on December 15, 2007
*is very excited*
Posted by: platypus01 on December 15, 2007
Posted by: DetroitMan on December 15, 2007
And that person (people?) posting the chat link is/are really starting to bug me D:
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omg i think im gonna hyperventilate!!!!
Posted by: Lizz on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: anonymous on December 15, 2007
I was deferred. At least this puts the waiting off until March. Phew... It's not a positive result, but it's still a relieving one.
Posted by: Patrick D. on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: cynthia on December 15, 2007
I got deferred, but I feel indifferent; there's always March for us deferrees to wait and see if MIT will do us up righteously. If they do, well, that's fantastic. If they don't, ob-la-di, ob-la-da, life goes on.
Posted by: Coby H. on December 15, 2007
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Posted by: Pedro F on December 15, 2007
OMGOMGOMG!
Congrats Lizz and Pedro!!
And BEST OF LUCK to everyone else ^__^.
Posted by: Rutu on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Evan on December 15, 2007
I am the Dad of a California high school senior who was "deferred". First of all, congratulations to all who were accepted, and also to those who were deferred.
Can anyone assist me with some further information on what this means, any statistics, new dates to worry over, etc.
Thank you very much,
A Dad
Posted by: Dad on December 15, 2007
Posted by: archimedes on December 15, 2007
Posted by: Carmen on December 15, 2007
IRT the Dad two posts up:
http://www.mitadmissions.org/topics/apply/admissions_statistics/index.shtml
Admissions Statistics
For the class entering in the fall of 2007
Freshman Applications 12,445
Freshman Admits 1,553
Percentage Admitted 12.5%
Early action
Applicants 3,493
Admitted 390
Deferred to regular action 2,638
Deferred applicants admitted during regular action 289
Regular action applicants 8,952
Total considered during regular action (including deferred students) 11,590
Admitted (including deferred students) 1,163
Number of applicants waitlisted 499
Number admitted from waitlist 20
So it's basically a second shot at getting in, and he/she can add stuff to his/her application. Good luck to him/her!
Posted by: Neil on December 15, 2007
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(and congratulations)
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Posted by: Harrangatang on December 15, 2007
I need to wait until March... its sooo long
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Posted by: Alperen on December 16, 2007
Lucky you. If standardized test scores could get me out of finals, I would be so happy.
Did you get in?
Posted by: phycodorus eques on December 16, 2007
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