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Matt McGann '00

Feb 4, 2007

Numbers, Perfect and Imperfect

Posted in: Miscellaneous

A quick entry, before returning to reading applications...

I am perfect today.

Perfect? What do you mean, "perfect," you ask? Well, today is my birthday, and my age is now a perfect number.

Perfect numbers are pretty cool, and have been discussed at least since the time of Euclid. They are also related to Mersenne primes: every Mersenne prime corresponds to exactly one perfect number. If you're even a little bit of a math geek (like me), it's hard not to be fascinated by perfect numbers and Mersenne primes.

Also, I expect that the number of applications we received this year will be published on Tuesday. To make this a little fun, we'll play this as a guessing game: how many freshman applications do you think MIT received this year? Many thanks to fellow admissions blogger Daniel Creasy at the Johns Hopkins University (a fantastic school, btw) for the idea.

To give you some basis to work from, here are our freshman application numbers for the past five years, starting with last year and working backwards: 11,373; 10,440; 10,466; 10,549; 10,664. One guess per person. This is just for fun. No prizes will be awarded, just pride and bragging rights. Oh, and in case you're wondering -- this number has nothing to do with Mersenne primes or perfect numbers (no, we did not receive 33,550,336 applications).

Leave your guesses in the comments, and good luck!

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I say an even 12,000.

Posted by: Stephen on February 4, 2007

happy birthday! i'd say you got about 10700 applications this year smile btw this whole perfect numbers theory is wrong, everyone knows that there's only one perfect number, the answer to life, the universe and everything and that number is 42 smile

Posted by: Sh1fty on February 4, 2007

I'd agree with Stephen... somewhere between 12,000 and 13,000.

Posted by: José P. on February 4, 2007

Hey Happy Birthday Matt.

I'd say something around 11000 applications. Well to choose a number ..mmmmmmm 11330.

Posted by: Viksit on February 4, 2007

I heard numbers were up around 10% this year...I'd say about 12,250.

Posted by: Jen on February 4, 2007

I say 11,999 (hey just a guess!)

Posted by: Mrinal Monga on February 4, 2007

Hey Jen we managed to blog at the same time smile

Posted by: Mrinal Monga on February 4, 2007

Hey Jen we gave our answers at the same time !

Posted by: Mrinal Monga on February 4, 2007

12,273

Posted by: Hector M on February 4, 2007

I say 12,345 coz everyone likes numbers in a row :D

Posted by: Reg on February 4, 2007

Stephen, that is the same number that crossed my mind... but I think I'll go with 12,120 ish. Just because it's a pretty number.

Posted by: milena on February 4, 2007

Lets do this the fun way.
Applicants
11,373..10,440..10,466..10,549..10,664
Difference in applicants
+933..-26..-83..-115
Difference in the difference of applicants
+959..+57..+32
etc
+902..+25
etc
+877

Now.. going backward, we get

+1779..+2738..+3671

which yields a final applicant pool of 15,044!

Of course, the reason for this large prediction is because of the huge jump in applicants last year. Too bad the data wasn't more consistent. grin

I'll base my actual guess on the EA data, though. There were 3493 applicants EA this year, 2,965 last year. Assuming the ratio between EA and RA stayed consistent between the two years, there'd be a total of 13398 received applications. That's kinda scary.

So yeah. My guess is 13398 applications. Let's hope I'm not right.

Sorry for this ridiculously long post. grin

Posted by: Adam S. on February 4, 2007

Hey Happy B'day!!!.....
My guess is around 11,300

Posted by: Paritosh on February 4, 2007

I'll venture an educated guess by means of polynomial extrapolation...

Year: # of applicants
2002: 10,664
2003: 10,549
2004: 10,466
2005: 10,440
2006: 11,373
2007: 15,426
2008: 24,197
2009: 39,859
2010: 64,918
...

Within about 150 years, the number of applicants to MIT will far exceed the population of the Earth, which is clear proof that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, and wants to attend MIT.

Posted by: Greg Courville on February 4, 2007

happy birthday!
I say 11,252

Posted by: Amjad on February 4, 2007

11,476. haha just a guess. Anyway, happy birthday to u, Matt.

Posted by: Meng on February 4, 2007

Oh, and happy birthday. grin

Posted by: Greg Courville on February 4, 2007

Happy Birthday Matt! And I'm guessing since you're neither 6 nor 496 years old, you're age is the perfect number between those two. That also made me realize that my age is exactly half-way between the only two perfect number ages anyone is likely to reach. smile

And for the number of freshmen applicants, my guess is around 11,800.

Posted by: Arkajit on February 4, 2007

Happy Birthday Mr. McGann. I bet you are 28 years old today. Well I know for a fact that the number of applicants this year is 11,229

Posted by: Solomon on February 4, 2007

11288
Hope to be one of the admitted smile

Posted by: Nedyalko on February 4, 2007

Oh, and happy birthday of course! smile

Posted by: Nedyalko on February 4, 2007

Happy Birthday!!!

I guess 11,534.

Posted by: Jillian on February 4, 2007

11000!
Happy Birthday!

Posted by: Austin on February 4, 2007

12,685!
Who knows, it just popped in my head.
I hope for your sake that it's closer to 11,000 than that.

Posted by: Karin on February 4, 2007

I'd guess it's probably infinity, give or take a few.

Posted by: Shawn on February 4, 2007

12,879.

Why not?

Posted by: Keri on February 4, 2007

11079.

Posted by: Austin on February 4, 2007

No... I take that back.

Let's instead gamble with the harmonic mean of everyone else's response: I say 11940 freshmen applicants. =)

Posted by: Austin on February 4, 2007

Happy Birthday Matt!

My guess is 11578.

Posted by: Kenechi on February 4, 2007

12,178.

Posted by: Olivia on February 4, 2007

Matt!!!
Happy Birthday!!!...My guess in your little competition would have to be 12,007. Seems reasonable right? =)

Posted by: Camille on February 4, 2007

10,575 for the win! I only say so thinking in the mindset that more applied EA.

Happy 28th Matt! :D

Posted by: Justin on February 4, 2007

600. 600. <== I wish

12256

Posted by: 0 on February 4, 2007

If this were Price is Right, I'd be the annoying guy who bets $1...

But since it's not, I'll say 13,129

Posted by: Kevin (MA) on February 4, 2007

11,750.

and happy birthday :D

Posted by: Jenny on February 4, 2007

12924 (+/- 3)

happy birthday matt!

Posted by: Arthur on February 4, 2007

12,430

Posted by: Analiese '10 on February 4, 2007

12853 - 13% increase for EA, so hopefully regular is the same. (rounded up to a prime number!)

And happy birthday!

Posted by: Steve on February 4, 2007

13428, i'd guess... the last two digits put there in honour of your birthday, if i guessed correctly...=)

anyway, happy birthday!

Posted by: Peter on February 4, 2007

Happy Birthday.
I'm Guessing 11,750

Posted by: Brett on February 4, 2007

Happy birthday Matt, suprisingly enough, it is my birthday as well, apparently making me both practical and poweful in mathematical terms (I could only wish in realistic terms). You can see Wolfram for definitions. My guess is 11,621 (the golden ratio raised to e all times pi). Have a good one.

Posted by: Scott Mitchell on February 4, 2007

Have a Happy Birthday Matt!

I would guess 13289 applications (or my birthday in the European format) smile.

Posted by: Bianca on February 4, 2007

Well, considering the idea the factors that more people are adopting the ideology that colleges don't look at test scores, immigration statistics and the years people from Asia and other regions of the world came to the US so that there children could pursue higher education, and the fact that last years number could have very well been just a outlier in the data pool, I think that this years admissions will be roughly the same as last years +/- 300. Maybe, 11,621, I like Scott Mitchell's logic.

Posted by: Rose on February 4, 2007

OH! I almost forgot, Happy Birthday!

Posted by: Rose on February 4, 2007

12,128

Posted by: Christina on February 4, 2007

Matthew Ché, I guess you are 28 years old now,(You are too old to be 6) Happy Birthday to you.

I close my eyes, and randomly hit the numeric pad 5 times, here we go..........42575........ eek it's too much, but ok, it's my guess

Posted by: The madman who makes people fly on February 4, 2007

I'm going to say 11,237. Completely random.

Aaaaannnnd, Happy Birthday.

Posted by: Josh V on February 4, 2007

Happy B'Day Matt. I guess it's 12568 apps (ran a random number generator)

Posted by: Basant on February 4, 2007

Happy birthday!
My guess : 11,953

Posted by: Prashanth on February 4, 2007

Happy Birthday!

I guess 11,590 (just a random guess).

Posted by: Anna S on February 4, 2007

12783.25

Posted by: CD on February 4, 2007

I'd say 12,013

Regarding an earlier post about the answer to the universe being 42...I watched a video in physics this year about integration, and apparently the integral of a tea pot is also 42...go figure...

Posted by: Herman N on February 4, 2007

Haha you can integrate teapots...?

Um, I think it's over 12,000 so I'll just use my birthday for the last 3 digits. 12,413.

And Happy Birthday!

Posted by: Roseanne on February 4, 2007

Happy Birthday Matt!

I guess 11,969 applications.

Posted by: Siddharth on February 4, 2007

11867

Posted by: 0 on February 4, 2007

13,727 applications.... and Happy Birthday!

Posted by: Sarah on February 4, 2007

Great site. Admin cool boy!!!
Thanx for resoure

Posted by: Gomodrilcheg on February 4, 2007

As a long-time computer person and former mainframe user, I have to guess 13,030.

Posted by: leftcoast mom on February 4, 2007

390/3493 = .111652 (EA Acceptance Rate)

Since they are dedicated to only accepting 30% of their admits in EA, the total accepted will have to be 1300.

(Total number of applicants)x(.111652)=1300

Total number of applicants = 11643.3 [floor it]

11643


HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Posted by: Snively on February 4, 2007

12134

Posted by: Ian on February 4, 2007

11436

Posted by: Ian on February 4, 2007

Wild guess!

the number of apps may be 10110110010011 in binary!

But is your age just a perfect number, i dont think so! here are some fun facts about your present age:

1.) 28 is also a trianular number,hexagonal number, centered nanogonal number. also keith number.
2.)Last number in Indian magic Square or order 3.
3.)its also a mersenne prime
4.)4th magic number in physics.
5.)its 11100 in binary and 1C in hexa
6.)its XXVIII in romans
7.)number of human teeth w/o molers.
8.)saturn revolves round sun in 28 years.
9.)hey wait! its also on padovan sequence, how can i forget to think about it before? man!
10.)2^2(2^3 - 1) = 28 grin

alrite, i cant remem any other, but really, 28 is the cool number.

Posted by: Arihant Agarwal on February 4, 2007

For those of you who like averages, here's all the guesses from the previous posts (excluding Ian's second guess, only one guess per person). Happy averaging!

10575
10700
11000
11229
11237
11252
11288
11300
11330
11476
11523
11578
11590
11621
11621
11643
11667
11750
11750
11800
11867
11940
11953
11969
11999
12000
12007
12013
12120
12128
12134
12250
12256
12273
12345
12413
12430
12568
12685
12783.25
12853
12879
12924
13030
13129
13289
13398
13727
15426
42575

Posted by: Snively on February 4, 2007

Hey I posted my last entry, just before going to bed last night. And guess what.. Matt you were there, in my dream, telling me that the no. of applcations this year was 12392. =P

Posted by: 0 on February 4, 2007

Hey I posted my last entry, just before going to bed last night. And guess what.. Matt you were there, in my dream, telling me that the no. of applcations this year was 12392. =P

Posted by: 0 on February 4, 2007

It was me with the above posts.

Posted by: Viksit on February 4, 2007

Happy Birthday!

13,056, for no particular reason.

Posted by: Meara on February 4, 2007

28...a mersenne prime?

My guess is OVERFLOW.

Posted by: 32sII on February 4, 2007

-1.60217646x10^-19

Posted by: Millikan on February 4, 2007

oops! i meant to say that a mersenne prime is its factor! sorry for that!

talkin of mersenne prime, the 44th of it and largest till date was discovered by steven boone on 6th sepetember, 2006! and its this:

(2^32,582,657 - 1) or simply M32582657

Posted by: Arihant Agarwal on February 4, 2007

12,227

Posted by: 0 on February 5, 2007

Happy B'Day Matt.

I'd say 12459 applicants.

Posted by: Vihang on February 5, 2007

Happy Birthday, Matt!

I'll say 12539.

Posted by: Ben on February 5, 2007

Happy Birthday, Matt! I'd have to venture a guess at, oh say 11,846 though the thought of more applications scares me as a deferred applicant.

Posted by: KAR on February 5, 2007

I was the min! until Millikan came along =-----
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My guess is 12,201. I would have said 12,200 but these types of things never seem to be nicely rounded numbers.

Posted by: Justin on February 5, 2007

11500

Posted by: Hopeful on February 5, 2007

12851

Posted by: Karen on February 5, 2007

Happy b-day Matt!

btw, my guess is 13370 smile

Posted by: Sanja on February 5, 2007

Happy Birthday!!!
ummm...11560...

Posted by: Anshu on February 5, 2007

Hi Matt,

Happy Birthday!

I'd say, given the surge in EA Applicants all of a sudden... That MIT's overall count of Undergraduate Applications would go to 13,648... Not because of any calculation lol... but it might be around what should come in...

Its odd, but lets see!

Posted by: Abhinav Mansingks on February 5, 2007

Have a super birthday Matt!

Guessing that your post on perfect numbers is a clue to the answer- 11213

Posted by: Vignan on February 5, 2007

Christ!! Everybody seems here had been fascinated by Hardy & Littlewood Inc. at one point *tilts his head* or this time around.
Anyway since the prime occasain of this blog seems to be B'day of Mr. McGann so Happy B'Day. And yes I am not in this guessing game. Since there are already many and Snively's enough for it. Anyway gotta do the job. So....Bye. And please do not guess my name, if you know it then keep it to yourself.
Ah! Gotta move fast.

Posted by: Guess Who? on February 5, 2007

I am with Solomon. You are 28 and I wish today turns out as the happiest day of your life.

I can't settle on a particular number, but I suspect it'll be between 12500 and 13000.

Posted by: Timothy on February 5, 2007

Happy Birthday be lated
13435(error +-1%)

Posted by: bhushan lodha on February 5, 2007

umm...lemme c... 22,326 apps in 2007...hw abt tht

Posted by: Shashank on February 5, 2007

Oh ya...n HAPPY BDAY - BE LATED!...=D

Posted by: Shashank on February 5, 2007

I'll say 10,497, because I want to have either the highest or the lowest guess so far, but saying something higher than 42,575 would probably be pushing it.

Posted by: Sha on February 5, 2007

11793
(that's my lucky number, by the way!!)
oh no, wait its one of my lucky numbers.
Have a lovely day, everybody!!

Posted by: Kelvin on February 5, 2007

ah, no sha, it´s not ^^
so cause nobody else has said it yet I guess it´s
E1337 raspberry seems to fit perfectely

and happy birthday!!!!

Posted by: vanessa on February 5, 2007

the golden ratio raised to e all times pi what exactedly does that mean? (i´m an international app)

Posted by: nnnoooo on February 5, 2007

Happy Birthday
And the no. of app. could be - 11,694

HEY ALL I'M comin to MIT this year.

cya.

Posted by: utkarsh sharma on February 5, 2007

Happy Birthday Matt..

My guess: 10,566

Posted by: Ankur M on February 5, 2007

Happy 28th Perfect birthday Matt!!! Next time you will be perfect , none of us will be around. I wander what will be mit admission like then. My guess for number of applicants in mit will be in between 2*fourth perfect number and 160th triangular number.

Posted by: Golden Girl on February 5, 2007

I bid:

$1


and the actual retail value is.....?

Posted by: Anon on February 5, 2007

250000

Posted by: bhushan on February 5, 2007

12669

Posted by: anth on February 5, 2007

13,400

Posted by: B on February 5, 2007

Ohh, Happy Belated Birthday,
I don't know why but i feel its 19,000 or close to it.

Posted by: Sabina on February 5, 2007

Can we fax our mid-year grade report?

Posted by: Sabina on February 5, 2007

Happy Birthday!
And my guess is 17,359 applicants

Posted by: Sarab on February 5, 2007

Dear Matt, Happy birthday!
Huuumm, for the reason I would say 12,321. But for the emotion, without it life is not worthy, I say 12,831.

Posted by: Susan Virgem on February 5, 2007

Happy Bday

My guess is around 11432

Posted by: Chessy on February 5, 2007

HI.. Matt,

Belated Birhtday wishes.. I found the concept of Perfect numbers amusing. Thanx for Sharing it!!!

Posted by: Gasthi on February 5, 2007

12117

Sorry guys, but I'm psychic.

Posted by: Kristin on February 5, 2007

Happy Birthday... Next year, your age will be a sum of two consecutive numbers - how odd!
I wonder how nobody thought of 12,345...

Posted by: Ina on February 5, 2007

What kinda fun is there in posting numbers??? I mean very few would do it in real life if asked to predict an exact number, but as someone as cool and important as Matt- MIT admissions officer has told people that it would be fun, no one questions it but I have!! ;->

Posted by: Wondering on February 5, 2007

11800 Applications!

Ankit Chandra
Gaborone, Botswana

Posted by: Ankit Chandra on February 5, 2007

Hey, Happy Birthday Matt!!
Mmm..I think I will guess 12013...or maybe there were fewer applicants....anyway, I will stay with my guess. And by the way, how many international applicants applied last year??

Posted by: Carlos on February 5, 2007

@wondering
i like to predict numbers-although its "stupid"
i bet a lot of people here do so now a real guess (no kidding) it´ll be 16,384 cause its a cool number raspberry

Posted by: @wondering on February 5, 2007

12,157. Just because I like the numbers 1, 5, and 7! grin

Happy Birthday, Matt!

Posted by: :-) on February 5, 2007

12,157. Just because I like the numbers 1, 5, and 7! grin

Happy Birthday, Matt!

Posted by: :-) on February 5, 2007

Happy belated bithday! I am guessing 11692 because it is a random number. Although that is only theoretially possible... Hopefully less though.

Posted by: Katherine on February 5, 2007

Happy belated birthday Mr. McGann.
I wish you a great year.

11213 isn't just a random guess : )

Posted by: Giray on February 5, 2007

12421

Posted by: me on February 5, 2007

I vaguely recall hearing that it was about 10% up from last year. That would make it 12487. I'll add 10 for no particular reason. so my guess is:
12497 applications. Gahh!

Posted by: Elizabeth on February 5, 2007

11111

Posted by: 0 on February 5, 2007

also @ wondering:
hey, I got a giant container full of red, white, and blue M&Ms; in 7th grade for guessing how many there were. I was...*checking out the yearbook*...13 off. sweet! Considering it took me both arms to carry the some-thousand-M&M-strong container. Therefore guessing numbers does have a purpose.

Posted by: Elizabeth on February 5, 2007

oh, and shame on most of you for not using units in your guesses!

Posted by: Elizabeth on February 5, 2007

Happy Birthday MATT.
My guess is 11936.
Actually, it is the rounded average of these numbers:
11229-11237-11252-11(28)8-11300-11330
11476-11523-11578-11590-11621-11621
11643-11667-11750-11750-11800-11867
11940-11953-11969-11999-12000-12007
12013-12120-121(28)-12134-12250-12256
12273-12345-12413-12430-12568-12685
12783-1(28)53-12879

Question. Find a positive integer which is the answer of following equation:

n^2-5^2n-12*(n,7)=0

Posted by: Saman on February 5, 2007

since my b-day is august 21st, i'll go with 12,821...not a very "MIT-like" method but well see

Posted by: weigs on February 5, 2007

Happy birthday, Matt.

I guess 12,321 applicants--that's just a wild guess.

Posted by: tokenadult on February 6, 2007

Happy Birthady Mat! my guess is about 1300 :>

Posted by: anoushe on February 6, 2007

Sorry that was supposed to be happy birthDAY loll

Posted by: 0 on February 6, 2007

Sorry that was supposed to be happy birthDAY loll

Posted by: anoushe on February 6, 2007

wow. what do you think the acceptance rate will be for this year's class? so many excellent applicants and only a few spots!

one and a half months left! i'm hella scared.

(and i already guessed/wished you a happy bday)

Posted by: Josh V on February 6, 2007

12*** yo...thats my guess

Posted by: Anonymous on February 6, 2007

Hi utkarsh, how are you being so sure? are you an EA? anyway congrats....

AND I LOVE THE RESPONSE OF 32sII.... overflow..... My Cyber often suffers that ..

Posted by: The madman who makes people fly aka Wandering Alba on February 6, 2007

Matthew dear, Happy 28th Birthday. smile Zhu ni shengri kuaile - 祝你生日快乐!

That said...

I'll pin the number of applicants down as 14,999. I know that the number of applications jumped in amount within the last few years, but by how much I'm not sure... =-----
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Posted by: Michelle on February 6, 2007

And what are the places you wnna go... Let me guess, Fiji, St. Kitts, Sikkim, ..... And The blue marble.... well that's where I wanna go.. are they same about you? wink sorry for that joke

Posted by: The madman who makes people fly aka Wandering Alba on February 6, 2007

11663

Posted by: Kumseok Jung on February 6, 2007

11,351

Happy birthday Matt!

Posted by: Rajko on February 6, 2007

Um... on a complete random guess, I'm going to go with 12415.

Posted by: Patrick on February 6, 2007

happy birthdayyy!

hmmm maybe 12031?

Posted by: sarah on February 6, 2007

I would say 10699.

Posted by: PRG on February 6, 2007

11790

Posted by: a nony mouse on February 6, 2007

i say 11,436.. it just came to me. I'm telling you, this is the winner. oh yeah!

Posted by: Whippie! on February 6, 2007

i say 11,436.. it just came to me. I'm telling you, this is the winner. oh yeah!

Posted by: Whippie! on February 6, 2007

hey, i´ve posted additional information to mit via email. the first time i did that, i got an email back where they told me that they´d copied it and put it in my file, but this time, no one answered. now i´m really anxious as to whether they received my mail.´should i write again?

Posted by: anxious on February 6, 2007

14400

Posted by: debbie on February 6, 2007

You're only perfect once!

Posted by: Melissa '11 on February 6, 2007

whatttttttttt???????????
MIT receives just 12000-14000 applications including those from the international pool....surprising...mighty surprising...!!!!!
my guess...then would be..hmmm 15,698

Posted by: kanika on February 7, 2007

Happy Birthday Matt!

11,336

Posted by: katrina on February 7, 2007

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