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Matt McGann '00

Dec 29, 2006

Deadline-time Questions Omnibus

Posted in: Process & Statistics

Before I go off on vacation today, I wanted to answer as many questions as I can. It's a long entry! Before we get to that, though, I have three pieces of advice.

1. Relax.

2. Submit your application well in advance of the deadline.

3. Relax.

Here goes...

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ola wrote, "I was wondering whether the 'creation' for the optional essay has to be something to do with engineering or could I send in a project I have worked on in my graphic design classes, such as a poster design for a spring musical along with a designer's statement? Or should I just forgo the optional essay since I plan to send in a CD containing several works from my art portfolio."

In the optional creation essay, it can be anything, not just something directly related to science/engineering. If you are sending in portfolio work to be reviewed, please note that our faculty have specificallly asked for hard copy submissions, and not slides or CDs.

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i.m.i.y.m.o.r.a.q. wrote, "If you get into the Accel. Calc course, what do you do for your second semester? Is that an open space for an elective?"

In a typical year, more than half of the freshman class places out of single variable calculus. For the students who take multivariable calculus first term freshman year, most follow it up with differential equations, though a number of students will certainly take a different elective course.

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Bill wrote, "I have already taken the regular SAT, and need to take the subject tests. I signed up to take the Math and Chemistry subject tests in December. Unfortunently, I got sick the day of the test and could not take it. Who do i need to contact if i am a "case" that needs to take the test in January?"

Please email admissions at mit dot edu to advise of January tests.

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R.M. wrote, "My daughter was deferred, and we were wondering if there's any other thing we could do to increase her chances come regular decision time?
1. You have received her scores on 2 of her subject tests (Math II-770; Biology-690). She took the US History on Dec. 2 and she got a 750. Should we send you the official result on that one, too? Or should we just send the results for the January test after she retakes Biology (or take Physics)?
2. As mentioned above, she's planning to retake the Biology this January. (By the way, she self-studed for the Biology test, which she'll be doing again - she took the Pre-AP Biology back in her sophomore year). Will that still be included in her application, since the results will not come out until February? Will retaking it help her in the application process?
3. I was suggesting to her that since she draws really well, she might want to send some of her drawings in. It will show another side of her that is not evident anywhere in her application file as of now. Or will this be a just a waste of time on both sides?

0. As I've written, the only thing we expect from deferred students is midyear grades. Good midyear grades are key!

1. You can just send us the new January results.

2. We should receive most January scores in time for consideration.

3. I doubt it would be a waste of time. Send the materials directly to the Architecture Department as described in the application.

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Anonymous wrote, "Are there any Early Action applicants who were deferred on a 'Regular Decision Definite-Accepted' list, if there even exists such a "list"? If so, approximately how many would you say are on this list?

There is no such list, and nothing even resembling such a list.

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Adam S. wrote, "I was deferred. Now that I look back, I think that I sent in *way* too much extra stuff. I sent in a CD with some programs, lots of extra information, a few additional teacher reqs, etc. I'm starting to regret sending so much, because now I have one or two more things I'd like to share, but I'm worried that I'm already pushing the patience of the admissions officers. With that in mind, I have a few questions.
1. Is the reviewing process started over from scratch, or are the notes taken on each applicant from EA reused?
2. I sent in a CD with perhaps 5 or 6 programs on it. I would like to scrap that, and just write a summary with a few screen shots instead. I don't want the admissions officer to have to spend time looking at the CD *and* reading the summary. Since the summary is just compressing the contents of the CD to an easier-to-use form, is it possible for me to completely remove the CD from my application?
3. I've done some things that are particularly interesting to me lately. In comparison, the things that I sent before were rather dull, actually. I'm planning on sending in a page of information on the new things.. but I've sent so much other information that I'm a bit worried that the new information will be smothered. I know I can't actually remove the old information from my application, but is there any way that I can ensure that the new information will be considered more closely? Since it will be more recent, will this be done automatically?

1. We will not re-review EA applicants from scratch. We'll be utilizing our summaries from EA, with any additional notes from updates sent in.

2. No need to "remove" the CD. You can just send in your easier-to-use form without worry.

3. It will be done automatically, no worries.

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Mike wrote, "I, too, am a deferred applicant. I want to send in a supplementary recommendation, but I don't think it will be ready by January 1st. Would it be okay for the admissions office to receive my recommendation after January 1st?"

Yes, that would be just fine. Please get any new materials to us by early February to ensure full consideration.

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Paul wrote, "Our school is already done with the third quarter of the school year 2006-2007. Could I send my secondary school transcript again which reports grades up to the third quarter of my senior year, most especially when it would exhibit an improvement in my grades? The transcript will be available by the end of January or start of February. Mailing it would take just a few days to reach the MIT Admissions Office."

Yes. Please be sure to send us your most up-to-date grades by early February.

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Elizabeth wrote, "According to both MyMIT and Collegeboard.com, my SAT I test scores have been sent, but not my subject test scores (I took those in November and self-reported them in my application). I think I'm going to have to have another official report sent with the subject tests on it, but unless I order a rush report I don't think it'll get sent by the deadline. Do I need to do this or will you accept score reports after the deadline?"

We routinely accept SAT scores after the deadline; this is not a problem. Do not rush your scores.

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Dan C. wrote, "How important is the Math SAT subject test? I mean if someone *cough* me *cough* was to get a 650 on MathIIc on his best sitting, could his chances be so grievously harmed that only a stupendous application could save him? Or is the scenario not so apocaliptic?" And Anonymous wrote, "I am an International Student. My SATII scores are very poor Math1 610 and Physics 590. However, all the other parts of application are very strong. Do you think that poor SATII scores are going to be a deal breaker?"

As Ben wrote in his most recent post, "I'd recommend trying to get that score up if you can, but one score will not keep you out of MIT if the rest of your application is stellar."

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Kim wrote, "This is similar to someone else's interview question... I had my interview a while ago but I don't know if my EC sent anything in yet. According to my myMIT account, he hasn't. But anyway, my question is, is it better to email my EC about my interview report first, or should I fill out that form thing on myMIT instead?" And Dan C. wrote, "I seem to have a problem. I had my interview eons ago and my EC said he would upload the interview more than 2-3 weeks ago, yet it hasn't appeared in MyMIT. Should I contact him first, or could it be a problem on your side of the server?" And RD Applicant wrote, "I had my interview on 12/9 (it was originally scheduled for an earlier date, but my interviewer had to postpone it), but the box next to "Interview" on my tracking page is still unchecked. I know my interviewer was planning to submit his comments within one or two days of the interviewer. Should I be concerned about this delay in tracking? Thanks!"

We allow interviewers until the beginning of January to submit their reports; some need that time write up the reports, edit them, etc. Also, our Records Office is currently deluged with application pieces. So, it could be that it has not yet been submitted, or that it has and hasn't yet been processed. You may wish to fill out the "Conducted Interview" form on your MyMIT tracking.

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Kristina wrote, "My synchronized skating team is going to sectionals and nationals this year and I was hoping to send in the placements of my team as more supplemental material. Is there any particular way you'd like those to be sent in, or could I just email the placements to you?"

Yes, email would probably be best.

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The OT person wrote, "IAP Questions: 1. Is it mandatory to be at school during IAP? (Can one come back to MIT in the middle of January?) 2. If you take an IAP for-credit class and fail, is it No Record (for all years, for just Freshman)?

1. You can be at MIT for all of, part of, or none of IAP -- it's completely your choice.

2. In your freshman year, it would be No Record; afterwards, it would be graded in the standard ways (not No Record).

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Gene wrote, "I'd just like to ask if MIT sends its freshman applicants notices of missing documents. I ask this particularly because I'm not sure if my guidance counselor was able to put a copy of my transcript, and I was not able to confirm such because we already went on the Christmas break and school starts again only AFTER January 1. Would it be OK if i send another copy of my transcript (once I get one, which would be after the RD postmark deadline) that would also contain my updated grades? I plan to send this along with my mid-year report, as Paul (^above^) and I are I think from the same school. :D"

We don't send notices of missing documents, though you can track your documents at MyMIT. If your GC neglected to send a transcript prior to the break, we would accept it when school is back in session, no problem.

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Amanda wrote, "For a visual art submission, do samples of work have to ocme in the for of 35 mm slides or may I send pictures?"

The art reviewers have specifically asked for hard copies and not slides, so I'd send the pictures.

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Jon wrote, "I will be graduating from UIUC in May '07 with a B.S. in Computer Science and a minor in Math. I would love to study Physics at MIT, but I have only completed 4 basic physics courses at UIUC and I am enrolled in 2 more this spring. I think this may be inadequate for admission to the graduate program in physics, but MIT does not consider applications for a second bachelor's degree. [...] Do I have any chance of getting in to the Physics M.S. program at MIT with so few undergrad physics classes? Would delaying my matriculation from UIUC to take preparatory physics classes improve my application? (How would I pay for it?) I am a huge fan of MIT OpenCourseWare and that's how I intend to spend the summer."

Jon, I only do undergraduate admissions and am not involved with physics graduate admissions. I'm sorry I can't help. You may wish to contact the physics department directly.

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Melissa '11 wrote, "What happens to EA accepted's from here? (When to expect materials/what materials to expect, will students contact us, etc...?)"

Congrats again! You'll be formally invited to Campus Preview Weekend in January, and in March you'll receive more information from MIT in the same mailing as when we admit the regular action students. If applicable, be sure to apply for financial aid by the February 15 deadline.

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International applicant wrote, "i had a few questions regarding the application process. 1. i will be taking part in the maths and informatics Olympiads next year(my final year - grade 12). in case i do qualify, i will be notified only after the final date of application has passed( 1st January). so will there be any way of letting u folks know of the results so that it would help my application?
2. if i have a rock band does that count?
3. i have made hundreds of websites and have been working as a freelance web designer for a number of years now ( designed some websites for a couple of big clients too).Does MIT look at that?
4. are my achievements before high school considered?
5. basically what I've done includes web designing, digital imaging, programming, quizzing, SAT 2300, Olympiads, done 2 research based projects, president of the computer club, rock band, drama and some basketball. the problem is, does MIT look at all these achievements in a sense that it doesn't promote one single interest?(jack of all arts master of none, u know what i mean). also, this has in a way affected my studies so my grades of 9th and 11th grade have gone down( in the middle of the class at the moment, though my school is one of the most competitive in my country). if i work sufficiently hard in grade 12 does that improve my chances of getting into MIT or some other ivy league school?

1. Yes, please email us with any significant updates.

2. Yes.

3. Yes, be sure to include URLs and/or screenshots. This would be a great way to use the completely optional essay.

4. We largely focus on your accomplishments in high school.

5. We admit "well rounded" applicants, "pointy" applicants, and everything in between. I don't think this by itself will harm you. As for your grades, they are very important, and strong marks in grade 12 will certainly help.

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Bhushan wrote, "deadline is Jan 1 but if we do something odd which would help our aplication after deadline and we post will it be added in our file"

Yes, email us.

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bhushan wrote, "this is somewhat me:
SAT2 Phy 580
M1 620
M2 660
Having two researches, cool teachers evaluation, new ideas and lots of supplemental material. are there any chances"

Like Ben wrote in his most recent post, "as my friend always says, if you don't apply you have a 0% chance of getting in."

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Viksit wrote, "I am an international student from India. I graduated from high school in 2004. Had some serious family responsibilties and chose to drop formal studies to be by my family. 1. What additional information or other materials should I send in, to help you people understand my case better?
2. I would also want to send in some abstracts of the work [Independent Projects] I have been doing during these gap years. Can I send in more than 1(preferably 3)?Its hard to chose between them. I love them all. And I would want you to look at all three? I am still working on two of these trying to better them. Can I send them after I have submitted my application? Maybe around January 20?
I have read this for quite some time now that you do consider each applicant in context. I hope you take into account that somebody applying from inner suburbs of India may not have any access to information nor any kind of advice on how to go about the whole application to that effect, except for the Internet. :(
3. And, my Principal thinks that if she signs the feewaiver, she will have to incur the 60$ application fee. How do I clarify it to her? ( She says she once had done it for a student at another school, and was ‘harassed’ by the university. She says she was asked to submit her Income tax returns and a whole lot of other things later.)  I know it is really strange but what do I do?"

1. Please be sure to tell us what you can about your situation. If you can't fit it within the context of your application, feel free to send it in as extra information.

2. We could look at all three; do your best to summarize them. Send them in as soon as you can, especially considering international post.

3. I hope she can take my word on this blog that we would never hold a principal liable for an application fee, and would never ask for a principal's income tax returns, either. She may contact our office directly if she wishes.

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Anonymous wrote, "Just a quick question: exactly what role does an alumni relation play in the admissions process? If my grandfather went to MIT, how (if at all) would it factor into my admissions decision?"

We have no legacy preference at MIT. If you are admitted, it is because you are awesome, not because your grandfather is awesome.

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Meara wrote, "So here's a question: I wrote this awesome essay for my common app schools and University of Chicago. I think it's a lot better than the essay I wrote answering the MIT prompt, and gives a bit more insight. As a deferree, should I submit it to the admissions office? It's not like I won a Nobel prize between my EA app and now, but it's a pretty good essay. Would the admissions committee's reaction be more along the lines of, "What an interesting essay!" or "Curses, another 600 words to get through!"? Obviously this is difficult since you haven't read my essay, but as a general rule...? Also, if I want to email something to the admissions office, where should I send it to make sure it gets to the right place? Can I send a Word document as an attachment, or should I copy/paste the text into the email? Is there any way to submit extra materials online through MyMIT if my application has already been submitted?"

We are happy to accept extra materials that you feel would help us to get to know you better and are significant. If you believe your essay accomplishes this, then by all means send it in.

You can mail any materials to the MIT Office of Admissions, Room 3-108, 77 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139. You may also send us plain text email at admissions at mit dot edu. Please don't send attachments. And, there isn't a way to submit extra materials through MyMIT after the application has been submitted.

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Anonymous wrote, "1. What's the difference between the 2 required CI-M and the 2 required REST classes? Can one fulfill the other? 2. The requirements page says that 3-4 HASS must go deep into your HASS concentration. What is this? Is it similar to a minor?"

1. CI-M classes are communications intensive classes in your major; usually, you take one in your junior year, and one in your senior year. REST classes are Restricted Electives in Science and Technology; you must choose 2 from a list of 47 options. Generally, CI-M and REST classes are different, but there's nothing preventing a CI-M class from also being a REST class. [see the MIT Course Catalog for more information]

2. The HASS (Humanities, Arts & Social Science) Concentration is like a mini-minor. Many students will expand this into an actual minor or sometimes a double major. (See here for more details)

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Anonymous wrote, " the internet of china was down. the earthshock have destroyed the cables which are under the ocean."

We are aware of the problems caused by the earthquake off the coast of Taiwan. If Internet problems continue, we will allow applications from the affected areas to be sent in after the deadline.

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ns wrote, "hey my 8th oct toefl scores have nt yet reached MIT,the toefl authorities say that they hav posted the materials....wat shud i do?" And Carla wrote, "I took the SAT subject tests in July 2006, and at the site of college board they say they are already sent, however in my application tracking it says that you have not yet received the scores, what should I do?"

You may send us a copy of your score report along with a note describing how we have not yet posted your scores. We can then use your score report to locate our official copy.

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Tom wrote, "Hi Matt, like some others (and Bill above), I have a question about January SAT scores. All your previous answers in the archives seem to indicate that January SAT scores will be taken into account; however, the admissions documentation seems to emphasize the fact that they're accepted on a "case-by-case" basis. Can you please elaborate on cases that aren't acceptable? (In particular, will you consider simple retakes?) Thanks!" And Dan wrote, "I have the same question as Tom (about January SATs). I was thinking about noting in my update letter to admissions that I'm taking it and you guys could consider the scores if you want or just ignore them otherwise. What do you think Matt?"

It is best for us to use tests from December or before. We can, however, use January scores, though it is better for our process to minimize the number of January scores. You can email us if you wish to use January scores.

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Michael B. wrote, "I was wondering if I have to have my SAT and TOEFL scores re-submitted this year, since I also applied last year?" And Ashley wrote, "I'm reapplying this year for the Class of 2011. Do I have to resend my SAT scores? Can I possibly request the admissions office to consider my previous year's scores instead? Thank you in advance."

I believe so, but please email our office to ensure that this will be okay.

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question for matt wrote, "Would AdCom ever do external research on an applicant (i.e. Google his or her name, look at his or her Xanga or user profile at a website) ? Is there a policy that prevents or allows or condones or discourages this ?"

When the situation warrants further exploration, we will not hesitate to do further Internet searching. For example, if someone lists an award or activity that I haven't heard of, I might Google it. Or if someone lists something that doesn't seem to make sense with the rest of the application, I might look for more information online. Generally, we will not look at an applicant's blog unless someone explicitly directs us to it. We don't Google every applicant and we're not out looking for bad words or anything on people's personal blogs.

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to matt wrote, "1) I don't think my interview went well. We didn't mesh well, and I just ended up talking about several of my extracurricular activities superficially. I was about to start talking about my science fair experiences when she told me my topic was irrelevant to the real world, so I didn't argue with her. Would a note about my interview in my application help? Or would this note be too biased, and that admissions would prefer it if I just trusted the interviewer?
2) from this, http://nymag.com/news/features/24398/index.html, : "There is one red flag, which is that she stopped gymnastics this year. Apparently, her school dropped the program; this should be footnoted on her résumé so she does not appear to be a quitter." "However, he seems to be a serial joiner. A red flag is the Ping-Pong club, given the fact that he has little community service."
These quotations are from a "college admissions expert." Please help me clarify =) Would quitting some activities in senior year (because of exams and school, etc.) be detrimental to chances of getting in? How about participating in different activities throughout high school, because I was "soul-searching"? My guess is that I could talk about it in my essay?
3) This one is a weird question: would involvement in an intimate relationship have any effect on an application (increase/decrease chances)?"
4) Just one more question. Would it matter if our essay on an extracurricular activity for the pleasure of it isn't about the first activity in the list of 5? Would it be okay to write about something that isn't even on the list of 5, because I have numerous interests and I'm already having a hard time deciding which to put in the list of 5?

1) Usually, even when you think your interview went poorly, your interviewer writes a positive report anyway. We also know that the interviewer generally meets you once for an hour or so, while your teachers and counselors who write on your behalf have much more in depth experience with you. So, in short, I wouldn't worry too much.

2) The article you quote from was, I think, too superficial and may have caused more anxiety than is warranted. As for joining activities: we hope you'll explore, we hope you'll do things you enjoy, we hope you'll make an impact along the way. I don't see dropping activities as a "red flag" necessarily. I don't think you need to write a whole essay about why you tried different things, no worries.

3) Unless there's something unusual, I doubt it would have any impact one way or the other.

4) Yes, that would be just fine.

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Abhishek wrote, "i m a student from india i wanna ask u one thing. WHY [...] DO U REQUIRE MIN 90 SCORE IN TOEFL(ibt). can a person below this score cant communicate in english or what.the toefl exam can be wrong.an american student can also get score less than 90. PLEASE DO SOMETHING REGARDING IT.plz dont make 90 as a comulsory score."

The language of instruction at MIT is English, and we want to do our best to ensure success for all of our students. We have based our minimum scores on experiences here at MIT with our enrolled students and with faculty input.

A general note: I'd ask that all commenters try their best to use proper English and not Internet slang, and to refrain from using swear words.

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DB wrote, "I'm an international applicant. I have an unweighted CGPA of 3.41 but I am in the top 10 of my school. My co-curriculum is one the best the school has ever had. For my SAT 2, Physics 710, Math 2 730, Chemistry 790 TOEFL CBT 253. I wrecked my SAT 1...CR 520, Math 710, Writing 530. I have a friend who got admitted without submitting SAT 1, opting for TOEFL + SAT 2 But I submitted all. Can the admission office drop my SAT 1 scores and only take into consideration my TOEFL and SAT 2 scores? Do I have a chance to be among the 100+ international students who gets admitted?"

We will use your TOEFL scores and you SAT IIs, and not use your SAT I. If you apply, you could be admitted; you'll be considered along with all of the other applicants.


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lost&found wrote, "I am an international student. I submitted my application yesterday. I have one question: I didn't write my class rank. As the 7th in my class, I am in the top 4% in my class. Do you think e-mailing this information to the admissions office would help? My high school doesn't report our ranks to colleges; therefore the admissions office wouldn't have any other means of knowing it from the application."

Usually, we will only accept official class rank from the school.

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Anonymous wrote, " Looks like there are more than a few questions for you to get through here, but I'll throw mine in anyway; I've written and rewritten the optional essay for my application and I just can't get it to a state where I'm happy with it. I'm very pleased with what I've got down in the first (non-optional) essay, so is it going to be better for my application to leave out the optional essay completely and have no chance of it harming my application or to include something I'm not entirely happy with on the possibility that it might help?"

If you're talking about the essay where you talk about something you've created, I hope that you'll submit it so we can learn about your creation. If it's an "anything else?" essay, you may wish to leave it out.

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theresa wrote, "is it okay if I send in a music supplement and a creative writing supplement? or is that too much? on the part of the application that asks what I do for fun, I talked about creative writing, and made a reference to a piece I wrote --- I was going to send in that piece, in addition to a music dvd if that's not too much."

The music supplement will go directly to the music office, so we'll never see it, and it won't overburden us. We would be happy to take your creative writing supplement.

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yohini wrote, "Hey i am an international student, The problem is i have applied for MIT but i didnt get the confirmation in my MIT application yet. And, since i have a long name, collegeboard could not accomadate it completely, so my score reports will arrive missing part of my 1st name, whereas my application has my full name. Do you think i should wirte to admissions about this? Also, i am planning to take some additional exams in feb, can i update the admission committee about the results in feb?"

We may still be processing your application, give it some time. As for your situation with the College Board, I would definitely email admissions at mit dot edu to inform our records office. They will need this information to match your tests with your application. February exams are too late for our process.

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adel wrote, "I came to U.S. on September of 2005. I can't take two subject test because I have really hard time with vocabulary. What should I do? Should I take one in sience in Jan. if I can? I already took MAth I and Math II."

We require an SAT Subject Test in both math and science from all applicants, regardless of English language fluency. You should take a Science test in January if you can.

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Chan wrote, "Hello. I'm an international applicant and every piece of my application filled by other parties has passed through my hands - in fact, I've been consulted on the content of some. I know specifically that my integrity has been *highly* rated on all of those forms ... but has my ability to inspect these documents infringed on that integrity? One teacher even emailed me the form to print out... PS: I didn't ask to see the forms. I'll be mailing them all on Friday, as a convenience to the people who filled the forms; they trust me a lot. Is an extra recommendation from a less friendly source advised? [I already asked for it. Do you accept e-mailed recommendations?]"

We know that sometimes students see their recommendations before they are sent in. It's not our preference, but we know it happens. Chan, I can tell by the way you write this that you are a person of integrity. Thank you for being upfront and honest. There's no need to get a "less friendly" recommendation to balance "friendly" ones. In general, we do not accept email recommendations, but if a supplemental recommendation were emailed to us with all of your information, we would add it to your file.

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Anonymous wrote, "1. If we get into a certain house freshman year, can we keep the same housing all four years? Same room all four years? How likely are you to get into the house of your choice? Especially for MacGregor =) 2. If you don't take the FEE or don't have APs, are you required to take CI-HW or can you just take CI-H's?"

1. The majority of students who live in dorms choose to stay in the same dorm for all four years. You may stay in the same dorm all four years. In the housing lottery, 90+% of students receive one of their top choices; dorm preferences shift from year to year, as do available rooms, so I have no idea what the lottery will look like for MacGregor this coming year.

2. A CI-HW is required of all students, unless you pass out of it with AP credit or the FEE. You have two opportunities to take the FEE online, and a third opportunity to take it during Orientation. [see here for more info]

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Anonymous wrote, "1. I was told that Admissions staff looks at SATII scores and than based on the scores they make a pile of people with "Rejected" or "Accepted". From that "Accepted" pile, than they go down to evaluating essays and recommendation letters to make a refined selection.
2. Also, I was wondering how do you determine if someone is top5% or 20%? Are these percentages refered to your academic standing in classroom? 'Percentage of Those Ranked who were: in Top 5%, in Top 5-10%, in Top 10-20%, below top 20%' All this rumours are confusing and making me worried about applying to MIT."

1. I have no idea where rumors like this come from. It is completely false.

2. Those statistics are based on the school-reported class rank and class size. For example, if your school reported that your rank was 14, and your class size was 200, you would be "in Top 5-10%."

As a general rule, don't believe a rumor unless you read it here.

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suspicious dad wrote, "Here's a question you can answer to persuade my dad that I can check the financial aid box in my app without worries: If MIT does not care if an applicant will need financial aid, then why is it that financial aid applications are due February 15th? That is about a month or so before decisions come out. Please help! My dad refuses to apply for financial aid because he's really suspicious that it'll hurt my chances."

I assure you we are genuinely need blind in our admissions for international and domestic applicants. The financial aid deadline is February 15th because the financial aid office needs a month to complete financial aid packages so that when we mail decisions, we can include the package as well as the acceptance. Your dad may also be interested to know that nearly every international student at MIT receives financial aid, and the average package is over $30,000/year.

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Carl L. wrote, "Does MIT accept rush reporting for SAT scores? My mom just requested them on Friday (December 22)when she realized she hadn't done it earlier. The College Board said they were processed yesterday (Dec 26th) but that they could not garuntee a school would accept them and we needed to check with MIT if 'rush reporting' is accepted. Help!!"

We can accept rushed reports, but we recommend sending the score the traditional way and not spending the extra money.

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Anonymous wrote, "Does MIT look at an applicants scores for the individual sections of the ACT, or do they only see the overall composite score? I didn't do too well overall, but math was my strongest section. Will they be able to see that?"

Yes, we will look not just at the composite but also at the individual components of the ACT.

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sarah wrote, "i'm an international applicant studying the British system of A-levels, and I was wondering if i can get exempted out of a couple of classes if i get A grades in my subjects (which are Math, Physics, Chemistry, Economics, Further Math), or would it still be necessary to take AP exams?"

We recognize A Levels, no need to take AP exams. See here for more info.

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Yossarian wrote, "Just wondering, but how can we find out if supplemental material have been recieved by the office of admissions?"

We don't track supplemental materials on MyMIT. If you call the office, we may be able to have someone physically check the application folder.

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Sammy wrote, "Ugh... hope I'm not too late to be asking this question, I haven't had access to the internet recently. I also hope this is the right place to ask. Anyway, my guidance counselor recently informed me that she did NOT obtain the grades from my former high-school form my grade transcript. I just managed to obtain them myself - with difficulty, considering the school was closed for the holidays. I study under a British system (in Egypt, no less), but it's still necessary to send my results for grades 9 and 10, right? Also, I'm wondering just how to send the results as I believe the counselor has already submitted her official report - should I mail them, or enclose them in a P.D.F. with my online application? What information should I include to ensure they are processed correctly if mailed?"

If you have obtained the transcript, we would like to have it as a part of your file. At the very least, we'd like your O Level results. Mail would be best; see if your high school will pay the postage. Make sure what you send has your name and date of birth.

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Anonymous wrote, "For the Mid-Year Grade Report, the MIT website states that only students in U.S. Schools are responsible for this doccument. Do you want a report card from students in other school systems? (The on-line application tracking shows that this section is incomplete without it. Do you waive this requirement for international students?)" And Anonymous wrote, "As an international student I'd also like to know what to do about the Mid-Year Report. Should I just ignore it?"

We do not require the Mid-Year Grade Report for students not in American schools. You may still send in the form if it is relevant to you.

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Anonymous wrote, "*standardized test*
1) i had my annual sports meet in december and was very busy with that(i am the head girl of my school)..and so it would have been impractical of me to take my SAT subject tests then because i did not have time to prepare..also the syllabus had not been completed in my school...
i)the january test date is towards thye end of jan...which is when i'm taking the subject tests...is that too late? does that mean the rest of my application would have been reviewed by then--and the jan scores would be somewhat of a make-or-break???.or will my apllication only be evaluated after my scores are recieved?
ii)am i a "case" for jan scores to be considered?
2)although i've taken my SAT1 and sent the scores...can i also send in my TOEFL scores?then,will you choose the better of the two?
*recommendations*
3)do you accept e-mailed recommendations? my principal who left a few years ago knows me way better than the current principal of my school...but he's in dubai...i'm in india...can i have him e-mail a recommendation?plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!
4)where should he e-mail it?
*supplementary material*
5)can i send in my poems,stories and ...outlines for novels?...how?where?in what format?and how much/how many?
6)i have sent my ICSE scores(class 10..)....now in jan..i will have my pre-board exams...can i mail those grades to you? should i just e-mail it..or mail a copy attested by my principal? if i e-mail it...so it reaches you faster...will there be a problem about authenticity?

1. Please email admissions at mit dot edu to use January scores.

2. Yes, you can (and probably should) send along TOEFL scores.

3. In general, we do not accept email recommendations, but if a supplemental recommendation were emailed to us with all of your information, we would add it to your file. You should have an official at your current school send along the official recommendation.

4. You can email admissions at mit dot edu.

5. This sounds like a great topic for the completely optional essay about your creations. You may also send in any supplemental materials you think would be of help to us.

6. I would email or fax the new marks, and follow it up with an official copy in the mail.

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Anonymous wrote, "where do we mention that january scores are to be expected?and that i'm sending TOEFL as well as SAT1 scores?"

You can mention this in various places in the Part 2, or via email.

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Mike wrote, "I'm a homeschool student excited to be applying RA and I have a few things I'd like to confirm regarding the application and how it applies to my situation:
(1) In Section 4 of Part 2 of the online application, you ask "Are you graduating from secondary school early or without a diploma?". As a homeschooler, I won't enter college with an offical high school diploma, yet it's not because I left early or didn't graduate. How should I respond to this question?
(2) In Section 6 of Part 2, you ask for Self-Reported Coursework yet clearly state "To be completed by students in U.S. school systems only". Does this include me as a US homeschooler?
(3) Although I have taken courses through a local community college and have sent you a copy of my transcript from that school, I do not have anyone who would be logical to fill out the 'Secondary School Report and Transcript' application component. Most of the information requested in that paperwork doesn't really apply to my situation. Should I just omit this form?
(4) Similarly to #3, I'm not sure how best to handle the 'Mid-Year Grade Report' component?

1. If your homeschool coordinator will deem you "graduated," you don't need to answer this question; we'll consider this a diploma.

2. Yes, you should definitely fill out the self-reported coursework.

3. We would also like a report of any schooling you've done under the homeschool umbrella. We'd like to know what you were learning and how you were evaluated. Your homeschool coordinator should write a letter telling us more about your schooling, and about your formal and informal coursework.

4. You don't need to worry about the mid-year grade report, unless you expect to receive new grades in the next two months.

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Anonymous wrote, "I have taken some dual enrollment classes at a community college and have requested that an offical transcript of my work be sent to you. Unfortunatly, the office closed before my semester grades were posted and won't re-open until the first week of January. This means that my transcript will be postmarked several days after the 1/1 deadline. Is this OK or do I need to indicate it somewhere on my application so you know to be looking? If so, where?

This is okay, send it as soon as you can.

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Hopeful wrote, "I am an international applicant. I have a 600 on the SAT 1 math but a 730 on the SAT 2 math level 1. Can you please tell me which one will be considered in the admissions process? Also, my TOEFL results will come out on 18th Jan. Will it be too late for MIT to consider it?"

We will consider your TOEFL. Assuming your TOEFL is better than your SAT I, we will consider your TOEFL and SAT IIs, but not your SAT I.

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bhushan wrote, "do u distinguish b/w TOEFL(iBT) 90+ 100+ 110+"

Yes, we do distinguish between different TOEFL scores.

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bhushan wrote, "International. if i send only 10th and 12th report without transcript will it do"

We would like your transcript.

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Abhinav M. wrote, "I'm an International Applicant from India. My old school in Mumbai where I attended grades 9-10 required me to send their transcript separately. So, I sent my regular application materials from my current school (Sec. School Report, Recommendations etc...) and sent only the Grade 9-10 transcript and ICSE Marksheet in a separate envelope. Application tracking does not indicate whether u've received both envelopes... it only indicates "Secondary School Report and Transcript" which I'm sure is my Grade 11-12 one..."

I assume we will receive your 9-10 transcript. If you'd like, you can email the office later in January, and we may be able to physically check the application folder for you.

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Roshan S. wrote, "My SAT scores were sent to MIT by the College Board in June this year. I submitted Part 1 of my application online on Dec 11, but the My.MIT tracking page still shows no scores received. I'm wondering whether this is because of the technical glitch you mentioned earlier or because my fee waiver application hasn't reached you yet. In any case, I've sent a photocopy of my score report with my application materials, which I mailed yesterday. Should I order another official score report for MIT? And should I order rush reporting or the regular kind? It would be wonderful if you could locate the June 2006 report and add it to my file, if your system has it."

You did the right thing by sending the photocopy. I suspect this will help us track down your scores. If it still doesn't show up later in January, call or email the office and we'll see what we can do.

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another question for matt wrote, "do the majority or minority of accepted applicants have the AP 5 or IB 7 credit ? Is that the standard of students that get into MIT (students at the first year credit level) ? Yes, there will be a range, some students will have the credit and some will not, but is it a majority of accepted applicants that are at the first-year level?"

It is true that a majority of first year students at MIT come in with some credit from high school. I know that, for example, more than half the class places out of single variable calculus.

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tom wrote, "What if my toefl scores won't be available until the first week of Feb ? I had my toefl on Dec 8th, but computers in test center broke down. Now my toefl is scheduled on 19th of January. I know that many students in my country have this problem."

This should be okay. You may wish to note this on your application.

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Yazeed wrote, "I submitted my application weeks ago. However, a fairly interesting project that is on a national level has just evolved and I am involved as a founder. Is there a way I can add this to my application or just for the committee to review? (Since I feel it stresses some more stuff about me within its context). Moreover, generalizing the question, if one applicant earns some extraordinary awards, work on some impressive projects, or generally be involved in something that is very interesting, is it possible to report that to the admission committee? Is it usually more beneficial to the committee to make its decision?"

Yes, if anything interesting happens to you after submitting the application, you should inform our office via email, mail, or fax.

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Keone wrote, "1. For scholastic distinctions, should we overflow into the additional information section if there are more than seven items? Or is this like the extracurriculars question, where you only want what we consider to be the most important ones?
2. On the self-reported course work, I thought I remembered seeing something about how we should leave the grade section blank if the grade wasn't out yet (or if we hadn't taken the class). Is this correct? Should we list all classes for senior year, and leave the ones with no grades yet blank? [Sorry if this has been asked before--I'm sure it must have been but I couldn't find it.]
3. Would it be appropriate to explain in the additional information section that I didn't apply early anywhere, and why? (My school has a policy that makes early action unofficially binding in an effort to encourage colleges to accept our students. In my case, due to financial concerns I didn't want to commit to one place.) I know you guys don't overanalyze the whole early action thing the way some colleges do, but I just don't want my lack of an early application to be perceived as a lack of interest."

Hi Keone! I hope all is well.

1. Like the extracurriculars, I'd list the "top" one in the section, and you can feel free to list the others under additional information or in an attached "resume," if you prefer.

2. You're right -- list all of your courses through the end of high school, and leave the grade blank if you haven't gotten it yet.

3. You may explain if you wish. For your school, I am well aware of the policy. As you note, we don't stress "demonstrated interest" as much as some other schools do, and we try our best to consider regular and early action applicants on even ground. So, I wouldn't worry.

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Muneeb wrote, "hi i gave my Sat1 twice and i got a 700 both times. i am an international applicant. i got a 790 on a MATHSL2 SAT2. I was wondering if a high sat2 can compensate for a medicore sat1. also i gave my toefl on the 15th this month. ever since i have been trying to update mit as a receipient but the toefl site keeps crashing. would it be alright if the scores are a bit late. i have been trying everyday but to no avail. ps my CR and writing scores are up to par."

It is okay if your TOEFL scores arrive after the deadline. Assuming they are good, we will use TOEFL instead of the SAT I, so that won't matter anyway.

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Muneeb wrote, "i have been developing databases since my sophomore year. these involve research and development but obviously i cant write a lot about it in the 500 word optional essay. i was wondering if i could send in an additional paper via mail that is the abstract that says how exactly i did the project and a sample of the original work"

Yes, you may do so.

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kanika wrote, "im from india but plz dnt get da usual impression ppl tend to have bou indian students...i mean nerdyish...well im a regular applicant n i jus wanted to ask y dsnt my application status show that my evaluations have been received even though they were deliverd a long time ago...n part 2 of my application is also nt bein accepted cuz it says i have some eror in da score entries ,,i have taken toefl but my acores arent available as yet n ill be takin da subject tests on the jan date so i really dnt have ne scores to list on my application so i left the fields blank n my applications nt bein accepted ...wat [...] is dat..ill be screwewd up fer life if this continued hpnin er da nxt 24 hrs or so also ...sumbody plz help me out of tis prob...."

You should put in the date that you took or will take the exams, and you can put "TBA" or something similar for the score, if you need to.

A general note: I'd ask that all commenters try their best to use proper English and not Internet slang, and to refrain from using swear words.

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Anonymous wrote, "again...i have only submitted my ICSE marksheet..(class 10)..that apart i intend to send the grades from my pre-boards but that will only be around the end of jan/beginning of feb...and i will b taking my SAT IIs in jan...so...is everything coming in too late?..???"

If we have all of your marks to date, then we don't need anything until your pre-boards. You should email our office to inform us that you will be taking the SAT II in January.

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Anonymous wrote, "Is there a way that I can tell if my community college transcript has been received by MIT?"

I assume we will receive your transcript. If you'd like, you can call or email the office later in January, and we may be able to physically check the application folder for you.

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Sabina wrote, "I'm an international student.2 yrs outside U.S. and 2 Yrs. in U.S.So how are my applications judged, is it tougher for me becoz i'll be compared to both international and U.S. applicants. Also, I can't get any materials such as rec. letters and original transcripts from my country but I've my copy of a letter from my principal,not a recommendation letter though, and my transcripts , is it ok if i send the copies instead. I've already applied and send everything from U.S. will they contact me if they need stuffs from my previous school or will they just throw my application away, i'm really worried. One more....I'm taking TOEFL on January becoz i wasn't able to give them on Dec. when i called the admission officer, she told me its ok if i send my TOEFL scores on January, but after reading the blogs here i realized that i haven't done anything for "Case By Case",whatever that is. i have no clue what i'm supposed to do , could you please clarify it for me."

If you are not a US citizen or permanent resident, we will evaluate you just like all of the other international applicants. We would like official copies of all transcripts; perhaps your grades from overseas are listed on your US transcript? We will not throw your application away. For TOEFL, you should email the office to note that you will have January scores.

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Sabina wrote, "hey Matt, sorry for a wrong question(off topic) in a wrong time. but i's going through yrs homepage and i saw that you like bollywood movies. Do you understand Hindi?"

I don't know Hindi, but luckily they subtitle most of the films that make it over here. The last Bollywood film I saw was "Dhoom 2." Some of my favorites have been Lagaan, Kal Ho Naa Ho, and Swades.

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Ritwik wrote, "I have already submitted my application and all scores etc. have been received by MIT (as it says on MyMIT account). I just wanted to ask, how much weightage is given to our SAT II scores in Math and science? Cause I'm applying from Canada and I hadn't learned many of the materials we were tested on. Therefore I couldn't get the most competitive scores. Will MIT consider this as a part of the "context" ?"

We don't make decisions based on test scores, but test scores are certainly considered.

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Tara wrote, "Sorry to add to the many questions, but I have a couple myself. I sent in my ACT and SAT scores on the same date (early December), however, only my SAT scores have been processed. Also, my teach evaluations were both sent out on the same date, but only Evaluation B was processed (Evaluation A was not). Help?! Thanks!!!"

I'd wait a week or so and see what shows up. Probably the Eval A will be processed soon. The ACT scores come in a different way than the SAT scores, I'm sure they'll come in, too. If they don't, email or call the office.

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Amjad wrote, "i'm an international student from jordan i just wanted to say that i rank #6 in a 35-student class in my 11th grade is that a good rank or what? my GPA is still Excellent though. one more thing i don't know if you remember me but i'm that international student you met at the arts garden in indianapolis i told you i got 86 in TOEFL and you told me to retake it :)..... i did and i got 102 :) i guess that's good indeed. for the record, i got 790 physics and 730 math but i am still afraid because i'm not taking an international high school system."

It sounds like you'll be a competitive applicant. I'm glad you got your TOEFL score up. Best wishes!

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confused-international-applicant wrote, "Well Matt, it has been so long since u last answered questions that I really forgot what i had to ask. frist of all, i got 720 in maths IIc, physics 790 and chemistry 800. well, maths' is not exactly what u call impressive because of the low percentile but still my friend'z interviewer said it sucked. Now I'll agree that to get in as an international student is tough, really tough but that doesnt mean 710 in maths IIc is rubbish. or does it? Interviewer said our apps are not gonna be considered implying that 720 or 710 was a deal breaker. For my friend, it was a heart breaker too. So i wanna know if any of this stuff what he said is real, and yeah one more thing that I'd like to quote: admissions depend on 80-90 percent on academics. Well Matt you gotta explain that honestly, if thats the case then all the nerds should be in but we hear people telling a perfect SAT scorer was denied so how do u justify that with the statement the interviewer gave. Thanks and Merry Christmas."

If your interviewer said that your scores "sucked" and that you won't be considered, I hope that you'll contact our office directly to tell us what happened, as that is out of line for an interviewer.

We consider applications in a holistic fashion; there is no formula. There is no percentage that academics count for, though strong academics are very important.

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Carla wrote, "hello Matt! i have a little problem, the report from my interview has not encore been processed, and when I filled the conducted interview form I filled in the date in the format day/month/year, which is the format that i am used to, instead of month/day/year, what should I do? should I resend the form with the correct date? thanks fou all your answers!"

I wouldn't worry, it will be okay.

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Anonymous wrote, "When's the portal going to be up?"

I don't know what you mean, I'm sorry.

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RD Applicant wrote, "As another person asked earlier, if my school never officially informed me of my AIME scores, would it hurt if I just indicated that I qualified for the AIME but do not know what my official score was? And are AMC/AIME scores ever used against applicants? Is there a certain "target score" on either exam?"

You can indicate that you were an AIME qualifier. We us AMC and AIME scores in a similar fashion to other aspects of your application, like awards or AP scores. There is no target score for either exam, though obviously higher is always better!

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RD Applicant wrote, "I was recently informed that I won the Siemens Award for Advanced Placement in my state. The Siemens Award for AP is a nationally recognized award, so does this make the award a national one or a state one? (Assuming that national awards should take precedence over state ones in the awards section of the application, if the Siemens Award for AP counts as a state award, would it be better for me to replace it with the AP Scholar w/ Distinction award, which is definitely a national award but is not nearly as selective?)"

Those national/state/etc. checkboxes can sometimes help us distinguish what level of a competition or award was reached. Given that, it would probably be best to choose "state," since there is also a national AP award.

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Anonymous wrote, "If I took college classes from a local university do I need to have the university send MIT an official transcript or is it okay if I just report the grades I received on my Self-Reported course work form?"

We prefer to receive official transcripts for all grades.

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Anonymous wrote, "Quick question about the "Additional Info" section... Is there any specific way we should present extra info? Essay form? Lists of random facts? Limmericks??..."

You should present whatever additional information you need to convey in the most straightforward manner possible.

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Jigar wrote, "The award won in FIRST robotics. Is it considered regional or national? Because in Canada it only happens in once place so it can be considered National but since its called "Greater Toronto Regional" it can be considered regional award. So is it regional or national?"

If teams mostly come from Ontario, I'd consider it regional; if they come from across the country, I'd consider it national.

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NoOneInParticular wrote, "hmmm...since the music department will be evaluating any musical pieces we send in to support our application......are there people familiar with Indian classical music in the MIT music dept?"

There's at least one.

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NoOneInParticular wrote, "Also, about how long after the deadline are you able to accept supplemental materials (including supplemental materials other than music)?"

Anything you send will be considered up until decisions are mailed. If you want your supplemental material considered within the context of the selection committee, I recommend you send in things by the end of January.

Comments (Closed after 30 days to reduce spam)

THANX alot
i had another q. how do i change the application information once it is submitted. i mistyped my dad's first name. my bad:(. so i am sending a correction via mail. is there anything else i need to do????

Posted by: Muneeb on December 29, 2006

THANX alot
i had another q. how do i change the application information once it is submitted. i mistyped my dad's first name. my bad:(. so i am sending a correction via mail. is there anything else i need to do????

Posted by: Muneeb on December 29, 2006

Weird question that may frighten you, but did you work on the crew for the show "Sex and the City"? I swear I could've seen your name in the rolling credits. Or maybe it's just been a hectic holiday season that's rendered me delusional.

Posted by: Q on December 29, 2006

Thank you very much Matt! Have a great holiday!

Posted by: anonymous on December 29, 2006

Lagaan, Kal Ho Naa Ho and Swades ! Wow !

But I think the way those two Indian Students used Internet Slang and Swear words was too degrading.

Hopefully people will realize that it gives the others a bad impression about you.

Posted by: Another Indian on December 29, 2006

Thanks for the exhaustive Q&A! I may never have a question again, that was so comprehensive.

Have a good vacation!

Posted by: Meara on December 29, 2006

*another indian*
yup..i think the same...for the 1st guy..the kind of english he has used in his post has pretty much explained why TOEFL scores are required of him..n kanika,u may not be a nerd,but neither are the other indian applicants..if anything,they're probably more accustomed to how human being s communicate when they need help..so watch ur language n ur attitude.

hey matt......
happy holiday..oh well,ur some 12 hrs behind so i guess i'll get to 2007 before u:):)...just wishing u a happy new year in advance anyway...thanks for answering all the questions...i dropped in a LOT..smile

bbyeee


the same old anonymous indian:)

Posted by: 0 on December 29, 2006

Matt "Dhoom 2" was excellent one which one was your favourite dialogue


mine was "If you deserve no one can take your place not even GOD"

for "another Indian" if s/he reds it
(Please can i know who is "Another Indian" we just used that language to save Matt's time

please give me ur e-mail on my e-mail bhushanlodha@gmail.com to be in contact)



Thankz Matt

Posted by: Bhushan on December 29, 2006

Anonymous

isn't entry in this blog for Indians showed your impression

please dont blame indian and abhisek is my friend he asked for TOEFL one because might someone mess up in test and too

INDIANS are best Brains avaible on globe checkout NASA, Microsoft, Intel, etc. if not i can mail you list of Indians there

Posted by: bhushan on December 29, 2006

Anonymous

isn't entry in this blog for Indians showed your impression

please dont blame indian and abhisek is my friend he asked for TOEFL one because might someone mess up in test and too

INDIANS are best Brains avaible on globe checkout NASA, Microsoft, Intel, etc. if not i can mail you list of Indians there

Posted by: bhushan on December 29, 2006

'the kind of english he has used in his post has pretty much explained why TOEFL scores are required of him'--that is incredibly condescending. People's linguistic habits online has little correlation with their ability to handle academic use of a language, as I'm sure 'u' understand.

Posted by: 0 on December 29, 2006

We admit "well rounded" applicants, "pointy" applicants, and everything in between.

Haha, I love that line.

Thank you for your time, Mr. McGann.

Posted by: Melissa '11 on December 29, 2006

Isn't there supposed to be some portal opening thing under MyMIT for EA accepted students? That's what I meant =) Maybe not...

And y'all should calm down. Intelligence is independent of race/ethnicity/whatever.

Posted by: 0 on December 29, 2006

Hey Matt,

I graduated from high school this year. I wanted to ask you something.

The two teacher evaluation requires a math or science teacher and a humanities, language or arts teacher. Unfortunately my english language teacher left school at the beginning of the year( my school does not offer humanities or arts). Back then, I hadn't started my process of applying, hadn't looked into what was required. So there is no way that my English teacher will be able to fill the form and I have no contact of hers whatsoever. I talked to my guidance counsellor. He reminded me of a recommendation letter she had written last year and said he would attach it along with a note and send it. I could see that as the only resort. Now, I am worried about the effect it may have on my application. Will the language recommendation letter be considered??

oh! Sorry about this late entry. I know you're leaving for your holidays. Please reply if you can. enjoy yourself. Thankyou!

Posted by: Abhishek on December 29, 2006

Hi Matt,

Happy holidays and a very happy new year in advance!

And a happy new year to my EA Accepted, EA Deferred, Regular Action friends. May the new year bring joy and open up new vistas for us. (And yes, that Vista be released soon!).

Posted by: Basant on December 29, 2006

Hey anybody, please this Abhishek me out with his concerned words.. I'm not sure about it.

Posted by: who? on December 29, 2006

I think they'll consider it Abhishek.

Posted by: who? on December 29, 2006

'INDIANS are best Brains avaible on globe checkout NASA, Microsoft, Intel, etc. if not i can mail you list of Indians there'

Sometimes i fell ashamed of being a Indian. If that's your attitude; stop dreaming about MIT.

Posted by: 0 on December 29, 2006

Hi Matt,

I have heard my friend saying that US Colleges do not like to admit Malaysian students because Malaysia is an Islamic country. I am quite worried after hearing that news. Is it true for MIT? (I hope not) Since the admit rate of international applicant is intimidatingly low, i am really afraid that my nationality hurts my application next year.

Thanks for any advices given.Wish u have a happy holiday ! ! smile

P/S : Thanks for your general note, becoz i cant understand internet slang. ^^ And another thanks for ur dedication in considering our application seriously.

Posted by: Ying Wei on December 29, 2006

hey ying wei.. That is outrageously false as far as I'm concerned so you needn't worry. tc.

Posted by: Well wisher on December 29, 2006

Hey Well wisher,

Your words make me feeling much more better. Thanks. smile

Wish you have a happy holiday too.

Posted by: Ying Wei on December 29, 2006

lol... i didn't have a clue whatsoever about the huge popularity of bollywood flicks until i read this post... of all the people, matt mcgann watches bollywood movies and that too despite not understanding hindi... seriously man... lol... keep it up though... some of them are good indeed...
ohhh... and this "Indian" debate is getting a bit irritating...!!! personally, i feel that anonymous is absolutely right and i feel the same way... but let's just end it here...!!!

Posted by: Ashwani Gupta on December 29, 2006

Hey Ying Wei,

Happy New Year to you! and have a great holidays. Lets just keep out fingers crossed for MIT.

Take care:)

Posted by: Well wisher on December 29, 2006

Hey Matt,

I graduated from high school this year. I wanted to ask you something.

The two teacher evaluation requires a math or science teacher and a humanities, language or arts teacher. Unfortunately my english language teacher left school at the beginning of the year( my school does not offer humanities or arts). Back then, I hadn't started my process of applying, hadn't looked into what was required. So there is no way that my English teacher will be able to fill the form and I have no contact of hers whatsoever. I talked to my guidance counsellor. He reminded me of a recommendation letter she had written last year and said he would attach it along with a note and send it. I could see that as the only resort. Now, I am worried about the effect it may have on my application. Will the language recommendation letter be considered??

oh! Sorry about this late entry. I know you're leaving for your holidays. Please reply if you can. enjoy yourself. Thankyou!

If there's anyone here who could help me out, please do so. I'd really appreciate it. Thanx!

Posted by: Abhishek on December 29, 2006

Thanks, Matt!! That was an exhaustive and excellent FAQ that I'm sure took you a lot of time to do. It makes a huge difference to those of us on this side of the table and makes the admissions process at MIT superior to any other college that I've dealt with. Thanks so much. Best wishes on your vacation!

Posted by: Mike on December 29, 2006

hey matt
i tried submittin part two of my application,,,i ve been tryibn to do dat fer da past 5 days but it shows me some errors in part 5 that is the part that asks fer da test scores . i left the fields dat ask fer da dates that ill be takin SAT 1 blank cuz im nt takin sat1 ...but then wheni try submitting the application it says that some information in part 5 is missing or incomplete n my application is not being accepted because of that .
i enter d all the dates n evrythn fer da rest of the tests in da proper format n i left the field dat ask fer da scores blank cuz id nt have either my toefl or act or sat 2 scores rite nw
plz help me out wid tis kwikly
plzzzzzzzzz
im collapsing
kanika

Posted by: kanika on December 29, 2006

Hi Matt. I'm going to apply to MIT in the year 2007 for the 2008 session but I need info on what the requirements are as a freshman. I already have a B.Sc.(Bachelor of Science) in Geography and Regional planning in the University of Lagos, Nigeria, and would like to do an undergraduate program in Architecture. What so I need to know and/or do?

Posted by: Niyi on December 29, 2006

Hi.

I hope you can reply, since I think you are on vacation!

I have had my interview (although a bit after the deadline) and wanted to know if there is anything I should do about it now. How long should I expect before I see confirmation of my interview on the myMIT account? What if the EC forgot to send it?

Posted by: Mona on December 29, 2006

I was deferred early action and I plan to send a letter to the admissions office regarding my activities since then. Would it be better to send this by email or regular mail?

Also, when I gave teachers the recommendation forms, I did not sign the "waive right to review" boxes because I was under the mistaken impression that they were only there to keep the letters private after the admissions process was over. I never saw these letters or changed anything in them, but it probably doesn't look that way in my folder right now. Should I include an explanation of this when I (e)mail the admissions office, or is it unimportant?

Posted by: Kevin on December 29, 2006

Hello Matt,

I am applying to MIT as an international student and have done my TOEFL and SAT 1, but I couldn’t manage to do my SAT 2 yet, I’ll be doing it on the 27th of January- I’m very upset by this and even more upset that MIT will be considering my application only case by case in such a circumstance, won’t there be some way through this? Please I’m desperate- not simply to get into MIT but I don’t want to be disadvantaged in consideration for admission. I have done my Edexcel Advanced Level exams.
Though I haven’t got my Nov 18 toefl results yet, I have got 800 for the SAT math (this might be a hackneyed phrase to you).
Perhaps I could use them temporarily and get word from MIT so that they will give full and ordinary consideration to my application. Or can you think of some way through it? Please?


Thanking you

Posted by: Prashanth on December 29, 2006

Hey Niyi, let me answer your question that way its one less question for Matt to answer. First, you cannot redo your undergraduate degree at MIT again since you already have one. I would suggest that you look into some interesting graduate programs at MIT probably Architecture. Here is a link to their graudate programs. Hopefully I have answered your question Niyi smile

http://web.mit.edu/admissions/graduate/

Posted by: Jigar on December 29, 2006

Guys please let me know which scene is best in Dhoom2. The one that caught my attention was last one when he urged his gf to shoot him. However, I find out that it was all set up????? Very original ending. What I found repeating and boring is changing the face. Like its an old trick. Did you guys see that robot that grabs to metal it was amazing!!!!

Posted by: Jigar on December 29, 2006

Are you guys plannin on turnin this MIT blog into a bollywood movie hotspot or sumthin?? Oh an btw...Dhoom 2 sucked! Don was good, Swades was awesome, Lagaan too... and for the dude who said this -

'INDIANS are best Brains avaible on globe checkout NASA, Microsoft, Intel, etc. if not i can mail you list of Indians there'

Come back down to earth pal, you are talking about the prestigious few who make it into IIT's, IIM's or BITS and univs alike.

Posted by: Shashank on December 29, 2006

Hi Matt. I've already mailed slides of artwork to be considered because I thought that was acceptable. Now it says that they've specifically asked for hardcopy materials and not slides or CDs. I don't currently have my original artwork, and so I will be unable to send in a hard copy submission anytime in the near future. SO my question is whether my artwork will still be looked at or not. Thanks.

Posted by: Rachel on December 29, 2006

I love how a mom asking questions for her daughter writes "Should we" with the questions.

Posted by: 0 on December 29, 2006

Hey Matt!

I'm applying to MIT and I need to send my SAT scores. If I'm requesting it to be sent now, is it necessary that I do rush reporting or can I just do regular.

Thanks

Posted by: AR on December 29, 2006

Kevin wrote "Also, when I gave teachers the recommendation forms, I did not sign the "waive right to review" boxes because I was under the mistaken impression that they were only there to keep the letters private after the admissions process was over. I never saw these letters or changed anything in them, but it probably doesn't look that way in my folder right now. Should I include an explanation of this when I (e)mail the admissions office, or is it unimportant?"

What leads you believe that the boxes are NOT for the purpose of keeping the letters private after completion of the admissions process? That is what I believe to be true. I don't think it has anything to do with a right of access to the recommendations *before* they are sent in and evaluated.

Posted by: 0 on December 29, 2006

Hi Matt! My name is Susan Gabrielle. I am a student of Brazil, and I am applying to MIT as an international applicant. I must say it is a dream the possibility that I can study in one of the best institutions of the world. I have got 103 in the TOEFL iBT, 740 in Math level II and 770 in Biology - Ecology. Based on my scores, do I have real chances of being admitted? I really want to study in MIT. Oh! Another thing, my whole name is too long and I couldn't type it in the blanks MIT provided, neither in the College Board form. However, I filled my whole name in the additional information field. Is that ok? I am worried if MIT have received my SAT II and Toefl scores.How can I be sure if they are already there?
Thank you very much for your attention.

Posted by: Susan Gabrielle on December 29, 2006

Susan - I got a 660 Math level II and 690 biology. Don't worry. The numbers just show if you're capabale - it's the rest of the application that's going to get you in. (Btw, they've said before something along the lines of "700-anything is fine".)

Posted by: 0 on December 29, 2006

hello
My dashboard previously displayed on green that my interview was waived since there was no EC near my place but today when i logged in i saw an EC assigned to me. Now its already late.
what should i do?

Posted by: bandwagon on December 29, 2006

He answered these questions before he left. He's on vacation now and probably won't answer any more questions.

Posted by: 0 on December 29, 2006

Hi Matt,
I'm from China and have been in US for one year, I came here after my sophomore year, but since juniors should take their the SAT test and I was not quite ready for it, so they put me in 10th grade last year. I'm a junior now and will graduate in 2008.
Two months ago (I believe)I asked you if I could take TOEFL+two SAT subject tests instead of SAT I+two SAT subject tests, your answer was yes, but I'm not sure if it's still okey for me to do that after I stay here for almost a year and a half( I'm going to take TOEFL next summer).
And onthe website it doesn't say how many years of foreign language are recommended, I have only two years of Chinese(in my HS in China). So do you think I have to take another two years of Chinese? Or should I take SAT subject test for Chinese to prove my ability in Chinese?

Oops, more question. My transcript from China looks just so-so, just low As(because...you might know how hard our classes are) and I have Bs. But the grades I got after I came here are really good. You can tell the difference. So do you think they will kill me? And also on the form of Self-reported course work, should I put "L level" on courses I took in China? Or put "O" as other and explain. Because when Cy-Fair HS evaluated my transcript they just put L level for everything I got from China, but you know they are harder than K level. What should I do?
Thanks!

Posted by: Amy on December 29, 2006

Hello, Matt. Happy New Year!

I've already been admitted, but I stil have questions about the admissions process (yeah, I like asking questions). Why do applicants have to send their music or art creations to the Musica and Architecture Departments? Does that mean that they will have no impact on the committee's decision?

One more thing: I'm taking several dual enrollment classes, but I will not complete them until May because classes are year-long in my school. Does I still have to send some kind of transcript from the community college with the mid-year grade report?

Posted by: 0 on December 29, 2006

thanks matt!! smile have happy holidays, everyone! smile **smiles all around** smile

Posted by: theresa on December 29, 2006

To Bhushan:

'INDIANS are best Brains avaible on globe checkout NASA, Microsoft, Intel, etc. if not i can mail you list of Indians there'

I do agree with you in some way, a lot of Indians I've had the opportunity to meet are very smart people. However, you cannot generalize and say that Indians are the smartest people out there. There are people from other countries that are smarter than a lot of Indian people. Your ethnic background does not determine how smart you are, so please don't go around saying that Indian people are smarter than everybody else. It makes me think that you think you're smarter than everybody else, and I don't really think that's the kind of people that go to MIT. If you're exceptionally smart, congratulations, but there's really no need to rub it in people's faces.

Posted by: milena on December 29, 2006

Matt, thanks for your informative answers! I have one more question for you: How do the admissions committee handle applicants who come from schools where they have no rankings (at all, percentage or any other type?)

Posted by: Tatyana on December 29, 2006

Matt, thanks for your informative answers! I have one more question for you: How do the admissions committee handle applicants who come from schools where they have no rankings (at all, percentage or any other type?)

Posted by: Tatyana on December 29, 2006

Hey, thanks for clearing all that up. I'm caught up in several cool projects which I hope to let you guys see.

Merry Christmas! Happy New Year!

Posted by: Jimmy on December 29, 2006

Anonymous up there asked about keeping the same room all four years, and specifically about MacGregor. You can keep the same room in MacGregor all four years if you choose to do so, although most students move around a bit within their entries to get into a suite with their friends or to get a room with a river view. smile

Posted by: Mollie on December 29, 2006

Ah! I tried mailing my application today, but the people at the post office turned me away, saying that they were going to be closed until Wednesday in observance of Gerald Ford's death. I had no idea that they were going to close, so I did not arrive at the post office in time to have it postmarked today, which was apparently the last day to postmark it. Wednesday is after the deadline! I can't imagine I'm the only applicant in this situation, will MIT consider this unexpected turn of events, or will it just be too late?

Posted by: Kristin on December 29, 2006

Completely not-time-sensitive, since I'm not applying till next year:

1. If I've applied previously (and was rejected, but there have been huge changes in the situation since), do you still have my old application material on file? Can I use old reference letters and test scores (those that still apply)? What about transcripts, if they haven't changed?

2. I know this isn't your department, but how big of a portfolio would you suggest to send to the Architecture Dept.?

3. How much extra materials to "get to know you better" is too much?

Posted by: Xan on December 29, 2006

Thank you, Mollie!

Posted by: 0 on December 29, 2006

That was interesting reading all the references to Ben in the blog... (although im sure they were not in reference to me) I feel special having my name on it. smile

Posted by: Ben Williams on December 29, 2006

so are act scores in the beginning of february out of the question?

Posted by: Ben Williams on December 29, 2006

"And y'all should calm down. Intelligence is independent of race/ethnicity/whatever."

-- Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/race_and_intelligence

"hey matt
i tried submittin part two of my application,,,i ve been tryibn to do dat fer da past 5 days but it shows me some errors in part 5 that is the part that asks fer da test scores . i left the fields dat ask fer da dates that ill be takin SAT 1 blank cuz im nt takin sat1 ...but then wheni try submitting the application it says that some information in part 5 is missing or incomplete n my application is not being accepted because of that .
i enter d all the dates n evrythn fer da rest of the tests in da proper format n i left the field dat ask fer da scores blank cuz id nt have either my toefl or act or sat 2 scores rite nw
plz help me out wid tis kwikly
plzzzzzzzzz
im collapsing
kanika"

--Please use proper English! Why do you spell quickly "kwikly" on purpose? Or with "wid" and the "da" and because "cuz"???

"I love how a mom asking questions for her daughter writes "Should we" with the questions."

--Agreed. It's scary.

Posted by: anonymous on December 29, 2006

Thanks for all the answers! I just have one quesiton. You don't have established quota's (like say from a certain school that has not sent a single kid to an IV in the last 5 years), do you? Please tell me no smile.

Posted by: Prashanth on December 29, 2006

To the anon above -

1) Don't believe everything you read on wikipedia.
2) Race and intelligence are independent - however, the opportunities offered to different races are not equal.
3) IQ tests are not accurate.

Posted by: 0 on December 29, 2006

Hey, you forgot to add Linda Griffith to MacArthur Genius grant fellow on admissions website. Just a notice.

Posted by: jpsi on December 30, 2006

How does one become a blogger (and when does it all happen)?

Posted by: Melissa '11 on December 30, 2006

No offense, but I agree with you anonymous, it's scary when parents are extremely involved with the application process. It seems as though the parent loves MIT more than the child does. That is wrong. The student should find the match between he or she and the school, not the parent.

Posted by: adMITted on December 30, 2006

I agree with anon and adMITted. I'm irritated when parents do everything - practically write the essays, ask all the questions, and do all the work for their kids. This doesn't mean the parent above is that way, but I'm seeing it now, a lot, in school. I wrote all my essays, did all the applications, and asked my dad for the credit card to pay. Ya know what? Ten applications done, all far before the deadline (I completed the last of them Dec 1 when 5 of my deadlines are in January).

If these people are truly "adults" (as one should be going into college), then they should be doing their own dang applications.

End rant.

Posted by: 0 on December 30, 2006

Have a nice vacation!! Thanks so much for taking the time to answer all those questions!

Parents still mess with applications? o.O

Too bad there's not really any way to prevent that though...

@Melissa: I think Jessica wrote something about that...something about knowing people in the admissions office or something.

Posted by: Yossarian on December 30, 2006

Thankyou very much for your time & response Matt.

I hope to see you all in MIT in 2007!

Posted by: Ritwik on December 30, 2006

Please, everyone, leave my mom alone.

The reason my mother posted those questions in the blog is because I had posted twice previously and was ignored both times. Now, I know Matt can't answer every question, but honestly, it doesn't hurt to ask again. I didn't want to seem annoying.

And for your information, MIT is my first-choice school, I have been finished with every single one of my applications since November (even those of them due in January), and I did them all on my own. But then again, I shouldn't have to answer to you--and neither should my mom.

Posted by: Angela M. on December 30, 2006

hi matt its Mike from Kenya. I have long considered joining MIT,but i have this BIG problem.I take my sat on jan 27 IN Maths,Physics and literature.Well here comes the problem i score A grades in Physics and ...well poor grades in mathematics.My teachers and me too have always been amazed by that coz no matter how much i read maths nothing dhanges except that i get lower grades,yet, not even the most complex physics calculation can put me down.Would i be a advisible for me to continue the admissions process?P/S PLEASE get back to me on that via my email address muteruw05@gmail.com

Posted by: mike on December 30, 2006

1.Mike, will the admission office receice application that arrives after the deadline?
The political turbulence in my country has shut down all possible links required to mail the application. Even, the banks are closed. I could not take the bank statement as well.

2. Does SAT 1 score matters a lot, even if my aceivements in other fields are very much countable?

3. What is the financial aid deadline for international student?

Posted by: Asif on December 30, 2006

1.Mike, will the admission office receice application that arrives after the deadline?
The political turbulence in my country has shut down all possible links required to mail the application. Even, the banks are closed. I could not take the bank statement as well.

2. Does SAT 1 score matters a lot, even if my aceivements in other fields are very much countable?

3. What is the financial aid deadline for international student?

Posted by: Asif on December 30, 2006

HI milena

i am not trying to tell that indians are smartest i m
saying "DON'T BLAME THEM" as Anonymous did and

SORRy!SORRy!!SORRy!!!SORRy!!!!SORRy!!!!!SORRy!SORRy!

Posted by: bhushan on December 30, 2006

i m with u jigar
but
changing face was too awesome

Posted by: bhushan on December 30, 2006

nothing about attitude there

it hurts me when somebody goes wrong with my country

Posted by: bhushan on December 30, 2006

I M NOT GOING TO LISTEN A WORD AGAINST MY COUNTRY

WHATEVER IT COST

Posted by: bhushan on December 30, 2006

happy new year Matt, and to all the students applying to MIT
(milena, Anonymous, kanika, jigar, sashank......)

Posted by: bhushan on December 30, 2006

Hi Matt,
Thanks for answering my previous questions.
But I have some more.
"We would like official copies of all transcripts; perhaps your grades from overseas are listed on your US transcript?"
Yes, my transcript from my present school has included the classes I took in my previous country, but the problem is that my guidence councelor has only given passing grade 'P', and I think only that much information would be too vague for those who read my application.
Like I told you before, its not possible for me to get an official copy from my previous school.
so, I thought of an alternative , is it ok if I send copies of my copy of the mark sheet with the signature of my guidence councelor as a proof of its validity.
And if yes, is it ok to mail it after January 1.And don't worry I have already submitted all the required materials.I would really appreciate if you could clarify it for me.I know that you are very busy but would it be possible to give me yours or anybody else's email address or any other contact resource so I could talk about it clearly .please email me at 'bhattasb1@hotmail.com' . Thank You.

Posted by: Sabina Bhatta on December 30, 2006

Guys I think its story time! smile I am Jigar and I was born in India but then I immigrated to Canada six years ago. Today I live in Toronto which is the biggest city in Canada. Its not the money that makes this city big its the people from different ethnic background working hard and helping each other "Tossed Salad." I remember participating in Chines New Year, Eid, Diwali, Christmas and African parade. It brings joy to us but also to other people and its a two way learning process. This world is a big happy family smile Happy New Year to you too Bhushan and all the applicants.

Anyone wants to share their New Year Resolution?

Posted by: Jigar on December 30, 2006

'I M NOT GOING TO LISTEN A WORD AGAINST MY COUNTRY
WHATEVER IT COST'

No wonder India is the poorest country of the world, not only economically but also intellectually.
I am proud of my country(which sadly i share with u) because it gives me the liberty to criticize.

Posted by: Abhishiv Saxena on December 30, 2006

My application is complete! It's such a relief to have submitted Part 2... I thought I would never send in that essay.

Posted by: Guyomar on December 30, 2006

Dear Matt,

Thanks for taking the time to answer all our questions. I have this wee bit of problem. My scores and school records are quite okay in my opinion. But then my General Paper teacher hates me and since she is my only Humanities teacher, I had no choice but to approach her for the teacher's evaluation. I think she might have written badly about me in the form. Will it count against me too much? My class teacher, my physics teacher and my school principal suggested to me that they gave stellar reports but not my GP tutor. Please help me clear my anxiety. Btw I am an international student from Singapore.

Mohan.

Posted by: Rajendran Mohan on December 30, 2006

Getting admitted into MIT is like the beginning of a new future. A prospective applicant, under a turmoil in his/her life, looks forward for such an opportunity. MIT has more than what meets the eye and no one can outcast the inevitable truth of it all. Judge your application, work on your scores, essays, take your recommendation teachers out for treats and pay their phone bills. Don't be surprised. Your recommendation might just turn out awesome. Scores aren't everything. That is why you have the rest of the application. But good scores can highlight your academic abilities.

MIT is all that I want. I'm sure others share the same craze over it. If MIT doesn't accept me, god take care of me, I would rather lock my dreams than remain in this life.

Posted by: THIPS4 on December 30, 2006

My brain is almost blowing up!!!!!!!! do you know why? My Mymit account is really messed up due to some sudden changes in my file status, thus could not allow me to send my application online due inaccessibility of my account.

1) Is there anyway tech' support group can make things go wou and work some miracles out this overnight such that I can not be caught naked late in the day?


2) Now is a weekend leading to new year holiday which is the deadline, if things never work online, is it allowable to drop my application to admission office either on 01/01/07 or 01/02/07 due to holiday in between?

Please help out.I am almost getting grazy.

Posted by: Majak E. on December 30, 2006

Hey Matt,

I have an urgent problem! My account has been locked for multiple attempts to access it with invalid passwords. I got an email saying that I should call the Admissions Office, but obviously you guys are closed for the weekend. What should I do?!

Thanks.

Posted by: Rohan on December 30, 2006

Hey Matt,
My account has been locked for multiple attempts to access it with invalid passwords. I got an email saying that I should call the Admissions Office, but you guys are closed for the weekend. What should I do?!

Thanks.

Posted by: Hang on December 31, 2006

Angela, I am truly sorry for the misunderstanding. I want you to know that I was not refering to your mother at all. My comment was just to disagree with those parents who don't understand that it is their child who is going to college, not them. Believe me, I have seen many cases like that (not only with college admissions, but with GPAs and SAT scores). I see that that is not your case. I admire those parents who care about the process but give their children the opportunity to be independent. Good luck with your application! =D

Posted by: adMITted on December 31, 2006

It's really a matter of perspective. Neither of my parents graduated from secondary school (and whilst we're at it, neither of them speak English either), so they couldn't help me with my university stuff if they tried. Sometimes I think it'd be really nice to ask my mother what she thinks about an application essay I wrote, or talk to my father about what I'd like to study or which school would be a good fit for me--but none of those things are going to happen. If anything, we should be happy for those students with parents who can aid them in the process. I do understand that you're complaining about those parents who go overboard, fair enough.

Posted by: Vu Truong on December 31, 2006

any one can tell me whats a transipt? and of which grades are required for admission. My school people dont kno abt them.

Posted by: Abhishek on December 31, 2006

Is the toefl still required for an international student studying in a britain for more than 1 year but having studied in the british educational system for more than 7 years?

Posted by: Anonymous on December 31, 2006

Hey Abhishek,
Transcript is like the mark sheet u get in India( I'm assuming that you are an Indian).
It has all the classes you take and the grades you got as well as the credits and some other stuff.
but in general its just a mark sheet,don't worry about it. and i think its sent to admissions office by your school.

Posted by: Sabina on December 31, 2006

thanks sabina. i m indian and can u plz tell me transcript of which class and also does it contain whole year marks or just final examination marks??????

Posted by: Abhishek on December 31, 2006

Abhishek,
a transcript of an American high School senoir(12th grade) usually has all the classes and their grades for all four high school years in the same page.
but i know for indians , u guys get a mark sheet every year after finals,right. that means you have to send the mark sheets of 9th, 10th, 11th years as well as some kind of official copy of what you are taking this year.
If your school has a system of giving mid term grades or exams whatever is applicaple, you have to send that as soon as you get it.
as far as i know, may be u had some terminal exams this year, may be u can just send it.but i don't have much idea about what to do with yr 12th grade scores.
if I were you, i would just send all the available information about the grades.ohh, and don't forget it has to be send by yr school.

Posted by: Sabina on December 31, 2006

Dear Matt,

In 2004, I had made a project, and got an award, and a considerable amount of money for it. The competition was organized by Nat. Geo. Channel. But Nat. Geo. [India] has now removed that information from their website. You said that you at times Google out details, to confirm what the applicant says. What can I do now? Though I have briefly explained in 500 words my project...But if you go to google you WON'T be able to find it. As a proof, should I mail to you a copy of the certificate, and most importantly that letter declaring the prize money which I won?

Posted by: Nervous Indian on December 31, 2006

how can I email official transcript of school??
I will be mailing my transcript before 10th jan will they consider it???

Posted by: Abhishek on December 31, 2006

how can I email official transcript of school??
my school will be mailing my transcript before 10th jan will they consider it???(due to christmas holidays and new year)

Posted by: Abhishek on December 31, 2006

Abhisek,
You can't email it,
Your school pricipal's or whoever is applicaple have to mail(post office) it from your school with the offical seal or signature, and i think the deadline is January 1,it means you can postmark it by Jan 1st.
i don't know if you can mail it after Jan 1st or not,but may be Matt can reply yr question ,
If i were you, i would contact the principal and talk to him/her about the emergency and somehow try to send it before the deadline, if possible.

Posted by: Sabina on December 31, 2006

MAY DAY! MAY DAY! MAY DAY!

Matt

Nervous Indian again...
I just submitted my application. I am facing a BIG problem...
When I was in the 10th standard I got All India Rank 85 and a State Level Rank 10 in the National Science Olympiad. But, my rank was just displayed on the school's notice board...I don't know why...school never gave me any certificate, neither did the conducting body...nor did I care much, because I never knew one day I'd apply to a Foreign Institution like MIT, as far as Indian engineering institutions are concerned they don't care about the extra-curricular achievements... Since I didn't have a certificate for it, I didn't mention it in my achievements....because I thought what if I get admitted and am asked to produce supporting document for this claim..... So what must I do ???? I have REALLY got those ranks and don't have the documents.... and I know this might just make world of difference to chances of getting into MIT...:(

The school authorities aren't quite helpful...actually they are busy with other things..well by the way, there are other projects, and awards ,mentioned in my application, which hopefully will indicate to AdCom, that it is possible for me to get those ranks...

I am trying my level best to contact the conducting body to get a certificate.. in the mean time might I PLEASE send this not-mentioned-in-the -application information to the Adcom......

* used by pilots to communicate that the plane is most probably going to crash land
It is actually corrupt version french expression m'aidez, which means " help "

Posted by: Still Nervous Indian on December 31, 2006

Hi Matt,
What is case-by-case basis for sending the standarized test scores, does it affect the chances of getting accepted at all.

Posted by: Sabina on December 31, 2006

hey abhishek,
don't worry, even i'll have to submit my transcript towards the end of jan...i hav eonly submitted mi ICSE marksheet until now...so don't worry..>>>breathe<:):):)

cool down everybody...

Happy New Year to all of u!!!--here in India..there's 1 hour,45 mins and a couple of minutes to go...yay!!!
hope 2007 brings us to MIT...
have a great time....

anonymous indian...as usual:)

Posted by: 0 on December 31, 2006

Hi Matt,

Regarding SAT IIs- is it possible to be admitted to MIT without taking a science SAT II (and submitting all of the other "required" tests)? Thanks.

Posted by: Mick on December 31, 2006

I can't help being jealous of adMITted. And I can't do anything fun with deFERred. It's just not the same.

Posted by: anon on December 31, 2006

HAPPY NEW YEAR all you people!!

Posted by: Well Wisher on January 1, 2007

Hey Matt,

I recently found a mistake in the information I provided to MIT about my parent's. The last names and the first names need to be switched. I never really thought there was a problem with it as I thought it was correct until I scrutinized every detail of it.

In order to rectify that mistake, may I email the admissions office and inform them about it? Or should I call them and let them know? Which one do you think is the one I should do? I'm an international student. Please let me know as quickly as you can.

Anybody in the blogs that can provide me with a suggestion?

Posted by: Intl ST on January 1, 2007

Hey Matt,

I recently found a mistake in the information I provided to MIT about my parent's. The last names and the first names need to be switched. I never really thought there was a problem with it as I thought it was correct until I scrutinized every detail of it.

In order to rectify that mistake, may I email the admissions office and inform them about it? Or should I call them and let them know? Which one do you think is the one I should do? I'm an international student. Please let me know as quickly as you can.

Anybody in the blogs that can provide me with a suggestion?

Posted by: Intl ST on January 1, 2007

to Anonymous

actually i too have problem of marksheet and the transcritp and the case is same as yours
have you asked some official person about that, will they accept if we send it after deadline

Posted by: bhushan on January 1, 2007

to Intl ST

i think they would be happy with e-mail

Posted by: bhushan on January 1, 2007

to Abhishiv Saxena

you are wrong

Posted by: bhushan on January 1, 2007

transcript of 10th and 12th
is that sufficient?

Posted by: bhushan on January 1, 2007

No, they need more than 10th and 12th.

Posted by: 0 on January 1, 2007

hey matt
i dont think you are going to scroll down to read any of the comments now that you are done answering all of them still i think i should say sorry for using slang on this blog (and swear words too) ...it was just that i was really frustrated with the problem and it had been the same for 5 long days so it was may be just out of that...nothing personal against the MIT application system and i am sorry to the indian applicants who thought i brought a slur on the country's name by doing that I AM REALLY REALLY SORRY BUDDIES !!!!
happy new year ..i spent 31st night reading the blogs trying to know evry bit of MIT and i think it is just perfect ...just the kind of place that i wanted to be since i decided to get into engineering in grade 8 ..it feels great to have a place where i dont have to pretend to be someone but me or do things just because they have to done. me lovessssssssssssssss MIT n so does evrybody else/...kudos to MIT!!!!!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR again

Posted by: kanika on January 1, 2007

hey Matt,

My evaluations and school report were mailed a long time ago. But I do not find it acknowledged in the application tracking. Has MIT received it? Please I'm worried.

Posted by: Worry! on January 1, 2007

Where are the financial aid forms, meant for International Students, on the Financial Aid Website? I couldn't find them, though I tried very hard.

Posted by: Indian on January 1, 2007

Dear Matt
Happy New Year !
Indian(the above comment)

Posted by: Indian on January 1, 2007

Dear Matt
Happy New Year !

Posted by: Indian on January 1, 2007

sir
i think i have big blunder in my secondry school report which also incorporates kind of an evaluation by my principal..the problem is that i asked her to fill out the form but in the field that asks for the academic accomplishments of the applicant she put a check on the average box ..i was heart broken to see that because i stood 3rd in my class in the first quarters and i was awarded the best student award after grade 9 and i have alwayz maintained great grades ,,,so i requested her to correct that because it was giving a false impression of me ..a really degrading one for me to be called 'AVERAGE' so she used a blade to rub off that check and tick on the 'outstanding' or whatever was the exact word for a very good student..my form looks like it has been tampered with..could that result in something serious like my application not even bein considered ???? i dont want that to happen
please help

Posted by: international applicant on January 1, 2007

hey da indian above
happy new year!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: kanika on January 1, 2007

One question on the postmark of teacher and counselor recommendations. I gave my recommendation forms to my teachers and counselor, but they will not be mailed until sometime in the first week after winter break (January 8 - January 13). Will this be ok? I know on the form it says to be postmarked by January 1, but the recommendations are done.

Posted by: Randal on January 1, 2007

Since you don't send missing document notices, at what point should we become concerned if a teacher rec has not been received? If that happens, what would be the next step to take?

Posted by: Claire on January 1, 2007

Matt, I would like to know your opinion on "packaging services" like IvyWise. Also, is there a way for college admissions people to recognize who had been "packaged" by paying these companies **alot** of money (upwards toward $33,000)and give equal footing to other prospective applicants who might not have the same oppurtunity?

Posted by: Olesya on January 1, 2007

Hi Matt

Can you give us a schedule/timeline of what happens to our applications =)

Thanks

Posted by: anonymous on January 1, 2007

Hi Matt,

My son has applied in RA. With 2006 INTEL ISEF 3rd place winner in Indianapolis & Siemens Westinghouse Finalist in south east region 2006, and SAT I (740 Math,670 Verb.) SAT II (Math 2 670, Bio 610), IB challanging courses HL with As & Bs and good well rounded application, how does he stack up for the chance to get in to MIT.

What can he do to contact admission office to express his interest more and many recent developements/accomplishments he wants to inform?

2006 May in Indianapolis we met you during the ISEF, and it left a good impression on him.

Thanks for your help & guidence.

Posted by: Tarang on January 1, 2007

Olesya,

I doubt anyone involved in admissions will endorse IvyWise because it implies that their school favors manufactured candidates and also that it favors people who can afford such services. However, I am a recent MIT alum so I will attempt to answer your question based on my observations. I don't really see IvyWise as helping you get admitted to elite technical schools such as MIT and CalTech. IvyWise seems to help, however, with Ivy League admissions.

The sort of accomplishments which determine whether you get into MIT are related to intellectual talent and achievement. Being elected to student government may be beneficial. Publishing a scholarly paper (and having research experience) might also help. However, the theme in MIT admissions is that they value things which genuinely show substance. I went to a magnet school where almost everyone did scientific research. I chose not to do research because I preferred to spend more time learning math and science through class and competitions. However, I got in anyway because my teachers said I was the best student they ever had and I distinguished myself in national math/science competitions. The point is that demonstrating your intelligence is much more important than acquiring activities, even if they are related to science like research.

The gimmicks that it seems to me that IvyWise comes up with to help people "stand out" in admissions only seem to work for the ivies. For example, if you found and organize a cultural festival an ivy league school may be really impressed whereas it will not be an advantage for MIT admissions.

Hope this helps,

Posted by: MIT alum on January 1, 2007

Another parent O.o

Posted by: 0 on January 2, 2007

Sorry, Angela. It's just that there are actually parents who are overinvolved in the process.

Posted by: anonymous on January 2, 2007

to Anonymous

hey you need to explain me the whole stuff on transcript

Posted by: bhushan on January 2, 2007

to Kanika

its here
http://web.mit.edu/finaid/forms/07-08ISFAA.pdf

Posted by: bhushan on January 2, 2007

to Kanika

its here
http://web.mit.edu/finaid/forms/07-08ISFAA.pdf

Posted by: bhushan on January 2, 2007

Dear Matt,
I'm very sorry for you. You had to write that "greneral note" because of those Indians.
We must avoid using such swear words and Internet slangs. It shows nothing but our ignorance.

Sorry again!

Goldie from India

Posted by: Goldie on January 2, 2007

Bhushan, they need your grades from 9, 10, 11, and 12. From American schools, they need semester grades - two sets of grades per year. The last set of grades for 12 are expected to be missing until the end of the school year. This means at the time of application, they require 7 sets of grades.


I'm not sure how this would work in other systems. You need to ask an admissions officer, but I'm almost certain grades from 2 years alone won't be enough.

Posted by: 0 on January 2, 2007

do we really need to submit grades frm 9th 10th 11 th n 12th..i jus sent in my cbse 10th report and my first quarter report for 12th

Posted by: kanika on January 2, 2007

Don't get me wrong guys! I know how Indian system goes for marksheets. In my Canadian Transcript it has all the courses and marks from grade 9 - 12 (Including future courses we will be taking). Based on that I assume that you guys need to send grade 9-12 transcript. However, I know for a fact that if its an issue to get Transcript and if you explain the situation to MIT Admissions Office. They might give you some more time to hand in your transcript. Best way to find out is to send an e-mail to admissions office smile raspberry Hope that helps.

Posted by: Jigar on January 2, 2007

I agree with the others. You guys probably need 9, 10, 11, and 12. Ask the admissions office - but when in doubt, I'd send more than less.

Posted by: Melissa '11 on January 2, 2007

hey matt,

is a 740 in math I SAT II be detrimental to an application? I have a 750Chem score and 750 M 720 V sat I scores. Would those be considered competitive for MIT admissions? Also, you only consider the top math and top science Sat II scores correct?

Posted by: Anonymous on January 2, 2007

How'd you like Dhoom 2, I thought it was pretty good, maybe even better than the first on.

Posted by: Anonymous on January 2, 2007

How'd you like Dhoom 2, I thought it was pretty good, maybe even better than the first one. Also, do you have any favorite Bollywood actors or actresses?

Posted by: Anonymous on January 2, 2007

matt,

my math sat I scores were pretty much average. my question is will really good sat math II help my applicaton? (i hate sat I) or are they indepedent from each other.

Posted by: Anonymous on January 2, 2007

Hi Matt,
I am confused about the Supplementary material, Are they required, i am asking this because i haven't send any. I know its too late now.
I feel like i am the least competent applicant, i wish there was an intrument to measure your passion for your dream , since that's the only thing that i have right now.

Posted by: Sabina on January 2, 2007

Sabina, what do you mean by supplementary material? The recommendations and school report are required, but any additional stuff is optional.

Posted by: 0 on January 2, 2007

in the secondary school report we are only asked to attatcha copy of the secondary school report and the most recent transcript then whats this whole issue about marksheets of the past 4 years i don't even have all of them...
any body ...suggestions??

Posted by: kanika on January 3, 2007

Kanika,
Send what you have before its too late!!! Once you are done sending, just explain your situation to Admissions Office and tell them it will take you couple weeks to mail them them transcript for (9, 10, 11 assuming). I am sure they will understand. You not taking quick action might hurt or not explaining situation to Admissions Office. So ya! Hopefully it was helpful smile wink if you need anymore help just mail me at jigarjuhi [at] yahoo dot ca

Posted by: Jigar on January 3, 2007

Dear Mr Matt
I had given the ACT Assessment in October from a test center in India. The scores have been sent to MIT, although i haven't received the scores yet- they are sent via air mail. ACT customer care has said that they'll mail the score report again to me in in 2-3 days- the score report they had previously mailed probably got lost in the holiday mail. This means that i will have to wait for another 15-20 days. Since admissions in MIT is very competitive was planning to apply to few lower ranked colleges also: i would be needing the ACT id for that. Mr Ben has told me that MIT couldn't release the scores, but i would still request you to release the scores to me.
With Regards

Posted by: Abhishiv on January 3, 2007

Hello Matt,
I find myself in a difficult situation. I am in a very interesting mentorship this year at the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab. I wrote about it in my application. I was going to ask my mentor to send in a recommendation as an additional application material, since I have been deferred from early action. However, he is extremely busy so I'm not sure if I should ask him to write a recommendation anymore. How influential would another recommendation be? What would you advise that I do?

Posted by: sam on January 3, 2007

hey Anonymous,
thanks for responding to my post,
i just read everybody talking about the supplemantary materials so i's just wondering if i forgot to send something that i was supposed to send. but i don't know about it either.
yes, my school has send my rec. letters and school report.
by the way, does anybody know when Matt is going to reply our concerns because i got into a new problem now.

Posted by: Sabina on January 3, 2007

Hi Matt,
Do you guys look how much supplementary materials each students send with their application? are they worth really very much?

Posted by: Sabina on January 3, 2007

Does it matter if you have a grammatical error on your essay? I just realized that I have a dangling modifier in my essay. Is there any way I can change this?

Posted by: 123apple on January 3, 2007

Hi, is it true that the most important criterion for early applicants (without finishing 4 years of high school) "has she/he exhausted his/her local resources yet? are such applicants competing with the other applicants at all, or only with the person he/she will become next year? if there's this early-applying kid who would make a good MIT Freshman but "hasn't exhausted his local resources yet" and he's applying early, will MIT take him this year or encourage him to wait another year to become an even stronger applicant? Please be brutally honest, thanks.

Posted by: zzzzzz on January 3, 2007


Hey! {:?[]}

What is this supplementary material thing? Weren't we supposed to just describe, in about 500 words, something great we had made, or thought of? In which part, of the application, had the MIT people asked the applicant to submit some supplementary stuff, if at all they had asked??

Posted by: N. Indian on January 4, 2007

kanika it is same with me i too dont have all of them

Posted by: bhushan on January 4, 2007

Can anybody tell when Matt is going to ARRIVE

Posted by: bhushan on January 4, 2007

somebody please guide

my school had not yet submitted important documents which should be submitted to MIT yet but they are going to so in 2-3 days will that create problem

Posted by: bhushan on January 4, 2007

Hey Matt,

It has been over three weeks since my school report and teacher recommendations were mailed by my school. Other colleges that I applied to have received them. It is only MIT that hasn't. It hasn't been indicated in my mit till now.

Please tell me what is going on? Has MIT received it?

Posted by: Excessively Worried Indian on January 4, 2007

hey kanika,bhushan...
relax..
it says quite clearly- most recent transcript containing subjects taken, failed or repeated...
i've submitted my ICSE marksheet n ISC curriculum...n i'll send in pre-board scores a little later...i dont have anythin else...
besides my principal didnt include the transcript which is why i had to give the attested marksheet..now i'm waitin for school to re-open..

Posted by: 0 on January 4, 2007

thankzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Anonymous

i was gone mad about it

Posted by: bhushan on January 4, 2007

now i am going to just

1) Relax.
2) Relax..
3) Relax...
4) Relax....
5) Relax.....
6) Relax......
7) Relax.......

Posted by: bhushan on January 4, 2007

Hello,
I hope everyone had a nice New Year. I just have one question: the Web site states that it may take at least two weeks to process recommendations/transcripts.Mine were submitted three weeks ago (my teacher and counselor said they sent them in right before winter break, which began on Dec. 18). By what date approximately do you expect to finish processing all materials (meaning, when would one begin to worry if there really is something wrong with the application, such as MIT not receiving some parts)?

Thank you

Posted by: Anna on January 4, 2007

Don't worry too much if some items don't appear in your MyMIT account. It took my teacher evaluations more than two weeks and my SAT scores a month to appear on the checklist.

I didn't send another essay for the supplementary material; instead, I wrote a brief description of my favortie ECs and what they mean to me.

Posted by: Zaira '11 on January 5, 2007

I'm an EC (interviewer). I just spent the evening reading this entire blog. I think the admissions office is up to their necks in sorting applications this week, so you may not get a response until next week, or even later. I hope I'm not out of line here, but I'm going to give advice based on Matt's earlier responses, and the info I have as an EC.

If you have something else important to submit, just do it. If something is coming late, just send an email to let them know it is coming. It sounds like recommendations or transcripts received in their office this week or next should be no problem, and things will be accepted at least until the end of January if you have a good excuse, but the earlier the better. They probably just want to keep the number of incomplete applications to a minimum. If you don't have supplemental materials, don't sweat it.

Hope this is helpful until Matt gets back to it.
Happy New Year!

Posted by: EC in CA on January 5, 2007

Just a note of clarification on my previous blog. EC's don't have much more info available than you do on the admissions process, and I don't have any special authority to advise. I'm just sympathizing with everyone going crazy out there.

The MIT admissions staff is a wonderful group of caring people and they really try their best to accomodate extenuating circumstances, especially ones that are out of the student's control. On the other hand there have to be some limits when you have 15K+ apps to look through. So get any remaining stuff in as soon as you can, and I think there's a good chance it will be considered. Just make sure you send them an email telling them it's coming and why it's late.

Posted by: EC in CA on January 5, 2007

Oops, I think the 15K might be wrong. I've seen three different numbers now, ranging from 8K to 15K. Probably somewhere in the middle is more like it. At least several thousand applications anyway.

Posted by: EC in CA on January 5, 2007

Dear Matt,
I gave my TOEFL and got 283 on CBT but with the mistaken last name. Similarly, my last name according to the SAT 1(V560,M780,W630) is also a mistake. What should I do now because i cannot change my TOEFL last name. Likewise, I am preparing for the SAT Subject Tests Physics, Chemistry and Math Level 2. I would like to know which books are better for these tests. I am studying Princeton review for Physics and Chemistry and Barron's for Math L2. It is also because of ther fact that even the necessary resources are not available here in Nepal. My father bought me these books from New Delhi and my teacher gave me an old math book since none of these are available even in our capital Kathmandu. I feel the necessary information are not available in my third world country. Even I had decided perhaps 3 months ago to study in Norwegian countries including Germany primarily because they would offer me full tuition waiver.
At last, I would like to wish a very happy new year ahead for all people in general and MIT applicants in particular.
If anyone wants to contact me about how to improve the situation in our third world nations, you are welcome at vishal@libertynepal.com
Thanks

Posted by: Vishal on January 6, 2007

Dear Matt,
I gave my TOEFL and got 283 on CBT but with the mistaken last name. Similarly, my last name according to the SAT 1(V560,M780,W630) is also a mistake. What should I do now because i cannot change my TOEFL last name. Likewise, I am preparing for the SAT Subject Tests Physics, Chemistry and Math Level 2. I would like to know which books are better for these tests. I am studying Princeton review for Physics and Chemistry and Barron's for Math L2. It is also because of ther fact that even the necessary resources are not available here in Nepal. My father bought me these books from New Delhi and my teacher gave me an old math book since none of these are available even in our capital Kathmandu. I feel the necessary information are not available in my third world country. Even I had decided perhaps 3 months ago to study in Norwegian countries including Germany primarily because they would offer me full tuition waiver.
At last, I would like to wish a very happy new year ahead for all people in general and MIT applicants in particular.
If anyone wants to contact me about how to improve the situation in our third world nations, you are welcome at vishal@libertynepal.com
Thanks

Posted by: Vishal on January 6, 2007

Dear Matt,
I gave my TOEFL and got 283 on CBT but with the mistaken last name. Similarly, my last name according to the SAT 1(V560,M780,W630) is also a mistake. What should I do now because i cannot change my TOEFL last name. Likewise, I am preparing for the SAT Subject Tests Physics, Chemistry and Math Level 2. I would like to know which books are better for these tests. I am studying Princeton review for Physics and Chemistry and Barron's for Math L2. It is also because of ther fact that even the necessary resources are not available here in Nepal. My father bought me these books from New Delhi and my teacher gave me an old math book since none of these are available even in our capital Kathmandu. I feel the necessary information are not available in my third world country. Even I had decided perhaps 3 months ago to study in Norwegian countries including Germany primarily because they would offer me full tuition waiver.
At last, I would like to wish a very happy new year ahead for all people in general and MIT applicants in particular.
If anyone wants to contact me about how to improve the situation in our third world nations, you are welcome at vishal@libertynepal.com
Thanks

Posted by: Vishal on January 6, 2007

Hey Vishal,
I'm from Nepal too.

Posted by: Sabina on January 6, 2007

Hey Bishal,
are u applying next year or have u already applied, whatever it may be , good luck

Posted by: Sabina on January 6, 2007

I just noticed a mistake in my written response of the description of my extracurricular activities in application part 2. Is there any way I could fix it? The mistake is relatively small and only affects one extracurricular activity. Should I just send a revised response via e-mail?

Posted by: Eden on January 6, 2007

i am passing my final year of high school this year (2007). can i apply to mit for admission in april 2008?

Posted by: abhipsa on January 7, 2007

jigar
thanx for responding to my question...still i don't think i need to send the transcripts that the admissions office doesnt ask of ...not becausee they will make me look bad(all are pretty good) ..just that i learnt from somewhere tha those who try to submit an entire resumae...in the lieu of the application can harm their cances of admission and i hpe matt is back son to resolve this big on query about "THE SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIAL"
till then lets just chillax ..as bryan says ...lolzzzzz
all the fellow bloggers wish me luck formy pre boards....asta la vista

Posted by: kanika on January 7, 2007

sorry for the spellin mistakes above ...this keyboard sure has some isses...lolzz
ciao

Posted by: kanika on January 7, 2007

is a 99 on toefl ibt good enough..i just got my scores today..had a hard time on the day of the test ...didnt sleep enough the night before and on then the passages in the reading section wer kind of bizzare...something on ornithology and anything in the world that i did not know about...any body suggestions ..is 99 good enough??/

Posted by: kanika on January 7, 2007

hi kanika,
Sure, 99 on ibt is quite good. Do not worry about it. If you have applied to MIT this year, leave all to Him and believe me, the results will show.
Likewise, I have applied to MIT this year. best of luck for everybody and thanks to Sabina for wishing me.
Great year ahead. Cheers!!!

Posted by: Vishal on January 7, 2007

hi
i got 116 in the toefl ibt. i gave the test in October, and had the cores sent to MIT then. Th problem is that i didn't start my MIT application till late November/early December. So should i resend me scores?

Posted by: Vivek on January 8, 2007

wowieeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
finally a check against my evaluations and secondary school report after so many days of anxious wait
im lik really happy..............

Posted by: kanika on January 9, 2007

stillllllllllllllllllll no Check

Posted by: bhushan on January 9, 2007

BHUSHAN
if you used normal mail to send in your evaluations then it will take some time even speed post will take atleast 20-25 days...cuz international mail is flooded with christmas and new year greetings ...i have no intention whatsoever to scare you but its true...you will have to wait indeed long...............besties

Posted by: kanika on January 13, 2007

hey...i m one of those hopeless cases that have no clue how to go about this whole mit thingy.
i am from india and will complete my schooling in 2008. i am preparing for IIT,indian institue for techology but wud like to give MIT a shot. i know about TOEFL and SAT but what else will i need to do???

Posted by: laila on January 20, 2007

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